Bicycling in Cold Weather - Page 3

12-11-2004, 08:28 AM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:55:20 GMT, Peter Cole
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>> I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a day in
>> temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I think:
>>
>> 1. Wicking base layer
>> 2. 100 wt fleece top
>> 3. Waterproof shell
>> 4. Midweight running tights
>> 5. Warm streamlined winter boot/shoes
>> 6. Woll socks
>> 7. Fleece hat
>> 8. Windproof gloves
>>
>> Is this ok? I don't want to freeze and I want to have a comfortable,
>> painless ride.
>
> It sounds perhaps a little light for that duration, at least for the
> lower
> temperature end, but pretty close.
>
>
OK, I am serious now. Get dressed as above then ride about 5 miles near
home and find out what your thermal balance is. I usually find that after
a few miles of pedaling I am overdressed and it is nice to be able to stop
at home and drop off the excess clothing. Just don't ride to far from a
warm place, in case your bike breaks and you can no longer keep up the
balance of heat generated versus insulation needed. Five miles should get
your metabolism to where it will be for the rest of the ride. Experiment,
but try to err on the safe side.

--
Bill (?) Baka

12-11-2004, 10:15 AM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:39:00 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>
>>I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a day in
>>temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I think:

> FWIW, last time I did a ride in that temperature range I wore shorts
> and a short sleeve jersey, with half-finger gloves. My fingers did
> get a little cold though. ;-)

Mark, did you really write that? Either you have less common sense
than I or you weren't thinking!

Folks don't listen to this guy for cold weather advice you'll end up
with pneumonia.

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12-11-2004, 10:15 AM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:39:00 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>
>>I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a day in
>>temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I think:

> FWIW, last time I did a ride in that temperature range I wore shorts
> and a short sleeve jersey, with half-finger gloves. My fingers did
> get a little cold though. ;-)

Mark, did you really write that? Either you have less common sense
than I or you weren't thinking!

Folks don't listen to this guy for cold weather advice you'll end up
with pneumonia.

--
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12-11-2004, 10:15 AM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:39:00 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>
>>I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a day in
>>temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I think:

> FWIW, last time I did a ride in that temperature range I wore shorts
> and a short sleeve jersey, with half-finger gloves. My fingers did
> get a little cold though. ;-)

Mark, did you really write that? Either you have less common sense
than I or you weren't thinking!

Folks don't listen to this guy for cold weather advice you'll end up
with pneumonia.

--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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12-11-2004, 10:15 AM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:39:00 -0700, Mark Hickey wrote:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>
>>I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a day in
>>temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I think:

> FWIW, last time I did a ride in that temperature range I wore shorts
> and a short sleeve jersey, with half-finger gloves. My fingers did
> get a little cold though. ;-)

Mark, did you really write that? Either you have less common sense
than I or you weren't thinking!

Folks don't listen to this guy for cold weather advice you'll end up
with pneumonia.

--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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12-11-2004, 10:47 AM

Bill Baka wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:55:20 GMT, Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>
news:1102742424.513028.70870@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a
day in
>>> temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I
think:
>>>
>>> 1. Wicking base layer
>>> 2. 100 wt fleece top
>>> 3. Waterproof shell
>>> 4. Midweight running tights
>>> 5. Warm streamlined winter boot/shoes
>>> 6. Woll socks
>>> 7. Fleece hat
>>> 8. Windproof gloves
>>>
>>> Is this ok? I don't want to freeze and I want to have a
comfortable,
>>> painless ride.
>>
>> It sounds perhaps a little light for that duration, at
least for the
>> lower
>> temperature end, but pretty close.
>>
>>
> OK, I am serious now. Get dressed as above then ride about
5 miles
> near home and find out what your thermal balance is. I
usually find
> that after a few miles of pedaling I am overdressed and it
is nice to
> be able to stop at home and drop off the excess clothing.
Just don't
> ride to far from a warm place, in case your bike breaks
and you can
> no longer keep up the balance of heat generated versus
insulation
> needed. Five miles should get your metabolism to where it
will be for
> the rest of the ride. Experiment, but try to err on the
safe side.

Bill and I are in agreement here.
I like to have some place to put layers I might need to take
off (like a rack trunk), so I am sure I won't be too cold.
If you are too warm, you will sweat more than you'd like to
until you open some zippers or shed a layer. If you are too
cold, you can get hypothermia on a long ride. It's not an
even trade.

Your list seems fine, although I can't tell about the
gloves. Mittens are warmer: I have a two piece pair that's
wool inside for warmth and leather outside for wind. As
another poster suggested, light nylon warmup pants can
provide an extra measure of warmth if needed.

--
Mike Kruger
"So class, who can tell me how much of our genetic code we
share with
chimpanzees?" "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh! I know, sir!"

12-11-2004, 10:47 AM

Bill Baka wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:55:20 GMT, Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>
news:1102742424.513028.70870@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a
day in
>>> temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I
think:
>>>
>>> 1. Wicking base layer
>>> 2. 100 wt fleece top
>>> 3. Waterproof shell
>>> 4. Midweight running tights
>>> 5. Warm streamlined winter boot/shoes
>>> 6. Woll socks
>>> 7. Fleece hat
>>> 8. Windproof gloves
>>>
>>> Is this ok? I don't want to freeze and I want to have a
comfortable,
>>> painless ride.
>>
>> It sounds perhaps a little light for that duration, at
least for the
>> lower
>> temperature end, but pretty close.
>>
>>
> OK, I am serious now. Get dressed as above then ride about
5 miles
> near home and find out what your thermal balance is. I
usually find
> that after a few miles of pedaling I am overdressed and it
is nice to
> be able to stop at home and drop off the excess clothing.
Just don't
> ride to far from a warm place, in case your bike breaks
and you can
> no longer keep up the balance of heat generated versus
insulation
> needed. Five miles should get your metabolism to where it
will be for
> the rest of the ride. Experiment, but try to err on the
safe side.

Bill and I are in agreement here.
I like to have some place to put layers I might need to take
off (like a rack trunk), so I am sure I won't be too cold.
If you are too warm, you will sweat more than you'd like to
until you open some zippers or shed a layer. If you are too
cold, you can get hypothermia on a long ride. It's not an
even trade.

Your list seems fine, although I can't tell about the
gloves. Mittens are warmer: I have a two piece pair that's
wool inside for warmth and leather outside for wind. As
another poster suggested, light nylon warmup pants can
provide an extra measure of warmth if needed.

--
Mike Kruger
"So class, who can tell me how much of our genetic code we
share with
chimpanzees?" "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh! I know, sir!"

12-11-2004, 10:47 AM

Bill Baka wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:55:20 GMT, Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>
news:1102742424.513028.70870@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a
day in
>>> temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I
think:
>>>
>>> 1. Wicking base layer
>>> 2. 100 wt fleece top
>>> 3. Waterproof shell
>>> 4. Midweight running tights
>>> 5. Warm streamlined winter boot/shoes
>>> 6. Woll socks
>>> 7. Fleece hat
>>> 8. Windproof gloves
>>>
>>> Is this ok? I don't want to freeze and I want to have a
comfortable,
>>> painless ride.
>>
>> It sounds perhaps a little light for that duration, at
least for the
>> lower
>> temperature end, but pretty close.
>>
>>
> OK, I am serious now. Get dressed as above then ride about
5 miles
> near home and find out what your thermal balance is. I
usually find
> that after a few miles of pedaling I am overdressed and it
is nice to
> be able to stop at home and drop off the excess clothing.
Just don't
> ride to far from a warm place, in case your bike breaks
and you can
> no longer keep up the balance of heat generated versus
insulation
> needed. Five miles should get your metabolism to where it
will be for
> the rest of the ride. Experiment, but try to err on the
safe side.

Bill and I are in agreement here.
I like to have some place to put layers I might need to take
off (like a rack trunk), so I am sure I won't be too cold.
If you are too warm, you will sweat more than you'd like to
until you open some zippers or shed a layer. If you are too
cold, you can get hypothermia on a long ride. It's not an
even trade.

Your list seems fine, although I can't tell about the
gloves. Mittens are warmer: I have a two piece pair that's
wool inside for warmth and leather outside for wind. As
another poster suggested, light nylon warmup pants can
provide an extra measure of warmth if needed.

--
Mike Kruger
"So class, who can tell me how much of our genetic code we
share with
chimpanzees?" "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh! I know, sir!"

12-11-2004, 10:47 AM

Bill Baka wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:55:20 GMT, Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>
news:1102742424.513028.70870@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I want to bicycle at casual speed for 5 to 10 hours a
day in
>>> temperatures 20F-35F. How should I dress? This is what I
think:
>>>
>>> 1. Wicking base layer
>>> 2. 100 wt fleece top
>>> 3. Waterproof shell
>>> 4. Midweight running tights
>>> 5. Warm streamlined winter boot/shoes
>>> 6. Woll socks
>>> 7. Fleece hat
>>> 8. Windproof gloves
>>>
>>> Is this ok? I don't want to freeze and I want to have a
comfortable,
>>> painless ride.
>>
>> It sounds perhaps a little light for that duration, at
least for the
>> lower
>> temperature end, but pretty close.
>>
>>
> OK, I am serious now. Get dressed as above then ride about
5 miles
> near home and find out what your thermal balance is. I
usually find
> that after a few miles of pedaling I am overdressed and it
is nice to
> be able to stop at home and drop off the excess clothing.
Just don't
> ride to far from a warm place, in case your bike breaks
and you can
> no longer keep up the balance of heat generated versus
insulation
> needed. Five miles should get your metabolism to where it
will be for
> the rest of the ride. Experiment, but try to err on the
safe side.

Bill and I are in agreement here.
I like to have some place to put layers I might need to take
off (like a rack trunk), so I am sure I won't be too cold.
If you are too warm, you will sweat more than you'd like to
until you open some zippers or shed a layer. If you are too
cold, you can get hypothermia on a long ride. It's not an
even trade.

Your list seems fine, although I can't tell about the
gloves. Mittens are warmer: I have a two piece pair that's
wool inside for warmth and leather outside for wind. As
another poster suggested, light nylon warmup pants can
provide an extra measure of warmth if needed.

--
Mike Kruger
"So class, who can tell me how much of our genetic code we
share with
chimpanzees?" "Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh! I know, sir!"

12-11-2004, 11:42 AM

>>>>3. Waterproof shell

Unless you're expecting rain - I'd suggest a windproof (but breathable)
top - they are much better at letting sweat escape than the best of
'breathable' waterproofs.

I'd also sugget taking some extra clothing if you're going anywhere
remote. Even tho' you might be plenty warm enough when riding - if
anything forces you to stop (mechanical trouble, punctures, etc.) -
you'll cool off very rapidly.

Kirby