Important Omission on Folding Bikes - Page 2 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

12-13-2004, 09:03 AM

> The One Thing that's Missing on your Great Bikes!

Yeah - something incorporated into the frame so that the bike can be folded
around a lampost/sheffield stand and cannot be removed without cutting
through the frame. It would be fairly light because the locking mechanism
is the only thing that needs to be tough - the rest of the lock is the bike
frame so cutting through it would defeat the object.

12-13-2004, 09:03 AM

> The One Thing that's Missing on your Great Bikes!

Yeah - something incorporated into the frame so that the bike can be folded
around a lampost/sheffield stand and cannot be removed without cutting
through the frame. It would be fairly light because the locking mechanism
is the only thing that needs to be tough - the rest of the lock is the bike
frame so cutting through it would defeat the object.

12-13-2004, 09:03 AM

> The One Thing that's Missing on your Great Bikes!

Yeah - something incorporated into the frame so that the bike can be folded
around a lampost/sheffield stand and cannot be removed without cutting
through the frame. It would be fairly light because the locking mechanism
is the only thing that needs to be tough - the rest of the lock is the bike
frame so cutting through it would defeat the object.

12-13-2004, 09:05 AM

Bob Downie wrote:
|| I
||| I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if
||| you agree!
|||
|| Snip
||| Couldn't you design something that would
||| somehow
||| make it impossible for an unauthorized user to make use of your
||| bikes? I'm
|||
|| Snip
||| I'm reluctant to take my bike on tour with me, even though I bought
||| it for that
||| purpose, because I don't want to let it out of my sight!
|||
||
|| As a recent purchaser of a Brompton I couldn't agree more. It may not
|| stop it getting nicked but it would make the bike less of a target.

Why would it be less of a target? Even if the person doing the stealing
isn't aware that it can't be ridden, it may still get stolen. A lot of the
time theft is the result of opportunity. Having a heavy U-lock on it may
deter a lot of would be bike thieves from bothering. Having a non-obvious
theft deferent would be ineffective, IME.

12-13-2004, 09:05 AM

Bob Downie wrote:
|| I
||| I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if
||| you agree!
|||
|| Snip
||| Couldn't you design something that would
||| somehow
||| make it impossible for an unauthorized user to make use of your
||| bikes? I'm
|||
|| Snip
||| I'm reluctant to take my bike on tour with me, even though I bought
||| it for that
||| purpose, because I don't want to let it out of my sight!
|||
||
|| As a recent purchaser of a Brompton I couldn't agree more. It may not
|| stop it getting nicked but it would make the bike less of a target.

Why would it be less of a target? Even if the person doing the stealing
isn't aware that it can't be ridden, it may still get stolen. A lot of the
time theft is the result of opportunity. Having a heavy U-lock on it may
deter a lot of would be bike thieves from bothering. Having a non-obvious
theft deferent would be ineffective, IME.

12-13-2004, 09:05 AM

Bob Downie wrote:
|| I
||| I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if
||| you agree!
|||
|| Snip
||| Couldn't you design something that would
||| somehow
||| make it impossible for an unauthorized user to make use of your
||| bikes? I'm
|||
|| Snip
||| I'm reluctant to take my bike on tour with me, even though I bought
||| it for that
||| purpose, because I don't want to let it out of my sight!
|||
||
|| As a recent purchaser of a Brompton I couldn't agree more. It may not
|| stop it getting nicked but it would make the bike less of a target.

Why would it be less of a target? Even if the person doing the stealing
isn't aware that it can't be ridden, it may still get stolen. A lot of the
time theft is the result of opportunity. Having a heavy U-lock on it may
deter a lot of would be bike thieves from bothering. Having a non-obvious
theft deferent would be ineffective, IME.

12-13-2004, 09:05 AM

Bob Downie wrote:
|| I
||| I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if
||| you agree!
|||
|| Snip
||| Couldn't you design something that would
||| somehow
||| make it impossible for an unauthorized user to make use of your
||| bikes? I'm
|||
|| Snip
||| I'm reluctant to take my bike on tour with me, even though I bought
||| it for that
||| purpose, because I don't want to let it out of my sight!
|||
||
|| As a recent purchaser of a Brompton I couldn't agree more. It may not
|| stop it getting nicked but it would make the bike less of a target.

Why would it be less of a target? Even if the person doing the stealing
isn't aware that it can't be ridden, it may still get stolen. A lot of the
time theft is the result of opportunity. Having a heavy U-lock on it may
deter a lot of would be bike thieves from bothering. Having a non-obvious
theft deferent would be ineffective, IME.

12-13-2004, 09:10 AM

Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
> I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if you
> agree!
>

I've never locked my Brompton up - I just take it with me and have never
yet been refused entry from supermarkets to courts to the poshest
hotels. The problem with your idea is its too easy to just lob it in the
back of a car and sort the problem of the frame out later - they do that
with full size bikes and a truck. What you do need is a different type
of lock because folding bikes generally do not have a conventional
diamond frame to put a lock through.

Tony

12-13-2004, 09:10 AM

Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
> I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if you
> agree!
>

I've never locked my Brompton up - I just take it with me and have never
yet been refused entry from supermarkets to courts to the poshest
hotels. The problem with your idea is its too easy to just lob it in the
back of a car and sort the problem of the frame out later - they do that
with full size bikes and a truck. What you do need is a different type
of lock because folding bikes generally do not have a conventional
diamond frame to put a lock through.

Tony

12-13-2004, 09:10 AM

Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
> I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if you
> agree!
>

I've never locked my Brompton up - I just take it with me and have never
yet been refused entry from supermarkets to courts to the poshest
hotels. The problem with your idea is its too easy to just lob it in the
back of a car and sort the problem of the frame out later - they do that
with full size bikes and a truck. What you do need is a different type
of lock because folding bikes generally do not have a conventional
diamond frame to put a lock through.

Tony