Important Omission on Folding Bikes - Page 3 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

12-13-2004, 08:10 AM

Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:
> I sent this as customer feedback to Dahon UK today. Support me if you
> agree!
>

I've never locked my Brompton up - I just take it with me and have never
yet been refused entry from supermarkets to courts to the poshest
hotels. The problem with your idea is its too easy to just lob it in the
back of a car and sort the problem of the frame out later - they do that
with full size bikes and a truck. What you do need is a different type
of lock because folding bikes generally do not have a conventional
diamond frame to put a lock through.

Tony

12-13-2004, 08:37 AM

On 13/12/04 4:56 pm, in article cpkhjg$84t$1$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk,
"JLB" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>
> With a folding bike you can often take it with you and either keep watch
> on it or leave it somewhere a lot more secure than in the street. That
> will not work all the time, so a lock is necessary. There's no doubt it
> is frustrating to get a decent lightweight bike and then have to carry a
> very heavy lock to secure it.

It is a universal law.

weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.

...d

12-13-2004, 08:37 AM

On 13/12/04 4:56 pm, in article cpkhjg$84t$1$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk,
"JLB" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>
> With a folding bike you can often take it with you and either keep watch
> on it or leave it somewhere a lot more secure than in the street. That
> will not work all the time, so a lock is necessary. There's no doubt it
> is frustrating to get a decent lightweight bike and then have to carry a
> very heavy lock to secure it.

It is a universal law.

weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.

...d

12-13-2004, 08:37 AM

On 13/12/04 4:56 pm, in article cpkhjg$84t$1$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk,
"JLB" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>
> With a folding bike you can often take it with you and either keep watch
> on it or leave it somewhere a lot more secure than in the street. That
> will not work all the time, so a lock is necessary. There's no doubt it
> is frustrating to get a decent lightweight bike and then have to carry a
> very heavy lock to secure it.

It is a universal law.

weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.

...d

12-13-2004, 08:37 AM

On 13/12/04 4:56 pm, in article cpkhjg$84t$1$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk,
"JLB" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

>
> With a folding bike you can often take it with you and either keep watch
> on it or leave it somewhere a lot more secure than in the street. That
> will not work all the time, so a lock is necessary. There's no doubt it
> is frustrating to get a decent lightweight bike and then have to carry a
> very heavy lock to secure it.

It is a universal law.

weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.

...d

12-13-2004, 09:12 AM

>It is a universal law.
>
>weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.
>
>..d
>

Where constant = half-a-bl**dy-tonne ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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12-13-2004, 09:12 AM

>It is a universal law.
>
>weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.
>
>..d
>

Where constant = half-a-bl**dy-tonne ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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12-13-2004, 09:12 AM

>It is a universal law.
>
>weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.
>
>..d
>

Where constant = half-a-bl**dy-tonne ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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12-13-2004, 09:12 AM

>It is a universal law.
>
>weight of bike + weight of appropriate lock = constant.
>
>..d
>

Where constant = half-a-bl**dy-tonne ;-)

Cheers, helen s

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12-13-2004, 10:10 AM

>Why would it be less of a target? Even if the person doing the stealing
>isn't aware that it can't be ridden, it may still get stolen. A lot of the
>time theft is the result of opportunity. Having a heavy U-lock on it may
>deter a lot of would be bike thieves from bothering. Having a non-obvious
>theft deferent would be ineffective, IME.
>
In the real world you want to get off your bike for 2 minutes to buy a
paper. Locking it can be one pain in the arse (assuming there is
anything to lock it to and you are carrying your 2kg U-lock).

All else being equal, if there is an unattended bike which you cannot
ride next to one you can, odds are that the one you can ride will be
stolen.

It should be simple to implement an integral locking system in a folding
bike so why not. Its far from a perfect security measure but why not
add it anyway?
--
Bob Downie
Downie GeoScience Ltd.
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