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Old 12-14-2004, 11:13 AM   #21 (permalink)
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

Bill Sornson writes:

>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


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> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.

An artist's (mis)conception no less.

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Old 12-14-2004, 11:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
Benjamin Lewis
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

jobst brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This image
gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg


It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap between
chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with the smaller
diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only be an issue for low
speed turns. It appears that it was designed for high speeds, rather than
versatility.

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Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
Benjamin Lewis
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

jobst brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This image
gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg


It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap between
chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with the smaller
diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only be an issue for low
speed turns. It appears that it was designed for high speeds, rather than
versatility.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
Benjamin Lewis
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

jobst brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This image
gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg


It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap between
chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with the smaller
diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only be an issue for low
speed turns. It appears that it was designed for high speeds, rather than
versatility.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
Benjamin Lewis
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

jobst brandt wrote:

> Bill Sornson writes:
>
>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe

>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.

>
> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close to
> the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close as
> the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.
>
> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This image
gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg


It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap between
chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with the smaller
diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only be an issue for low
speed turns. It appears that it was designed for high speeds, rather than
versatility.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
-- James Thurber
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:43 AM   #26 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:00 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <0XGvd.11990$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I think you'll find it is a real bike, Jobst, pictured in the metal.
Or rather in the carbon. It's used almost exclusively for track
racing, though.

I've seen a bike with even more restricted steering, although to be
fair the rider did Crash Horribly and inflict major road rash on his
arse - but that was mainly because he clipped someone else's wheel at
speed. The rider in question being one Mr Burrows.

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Old 12-14-2004, 11:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:00 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <0XGvd.11990$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I think you'll find it is a real bike, Jobst, pictured in the metal.
Or rather in the carbon. It's used almost exclusively for track
racing, though.

I've seen a bike with even more restricted steering, although to be
fair the rider did Crash Horribly and inflict major road rash on his
arse - but that was mainly because he clipped someone else's wheel at
speed. The rider in question being one Mr Burrows.

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Old 12-14-2004, 11:43 AM   #28 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:00 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <0XGvd.11990$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I think you'll find it is a real bike, Jobst, pictured in the metal.
Or rather in the carbon. It's used almost exclusively for track
racing, though.

I've seen a bike with even more restricted steering, although to be
fair the rider did Crash Horribly and inflict major road rash on his
arse - but that was mainly because he clipped someone else's wheel at
speed. The rider in question being one Mr Burrows.

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Old 12-14-2004, 11:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:13:00 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <0XGvd.11990$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>An artist's (mis)conception no less.


I think you'll find it is a real bike, Jobst, pictured in the metal.
Or rather in the carbon. It's used almost exclusively for track
racing, though.

I've seen a bike with even more restricted steering, although to be
fair the rider did Crash Horribly and inflict major road rash on his
arse - but that was mainly because he clipped someone else's wheel at
speed. The rider in question being one Mr Burrows.

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Old 12-14-2004, 12:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

Benjamin Lewis writes:

>>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


>> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close
>> to the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close
>> as the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.


>> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


> I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This
> image gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg

> It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap
> between chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with
> the smaller diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only
> be an issue for low speed turns. It appears that it was designed
> for high speeds, rather than versatility.


The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids on
the block have all seen it.

Jobst Brandt
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