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Old 12-14-2004, 12:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

Benjamin Lewis writes:

>>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


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>>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


>> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close
>> to the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close
>> as the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.


>> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


> I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This
> image gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg

> It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap
> between chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with
> the smaller diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only
> be an issue for low speed turns. It appears that it was designed
> for high speeds, rather than versatility.


The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids on
the block have all seen it.

Jobst Brandt
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Old 12-14-2004, 12:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

Benjamin Lewis writes:

>>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


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>>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


>> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close
>> to the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close
>> as the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.


>> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


> I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This
> image gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg

> It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap
> between chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with
> the smaller diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only
> be an issue for low speed turns. It appears that it was designed
> for high speeds, rather than versatility.


The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids on
the block have all seen it.

Jobst Brandt
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Old 12-14-2004, 12:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

Benjamin Lewis writes:

>>>> Here is the fastest stock bike in the known universe


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>>> Take it to rec.sortacycles.abominations where it belongs.


>> You may also have noticed that the chain of this freak is so close
>> to the front wheel that the wheel can't steer. It's about as close
>> as the chain is to the rear wheel on a conventional bicycle.


>> An artist's (mis)conception no less.


> I find this difficult to tell from the available photographs. This
> image gives the best view of the front wheel and chain:


http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisi...eerer_tube.jpg

> It's hard to tell on this side view, but it looks like the gap
> between chain and wheel is a couple of inches, and that coupled with
> the smaller diameter wheel makes it look to me like this would only
> be an issue for low speed turns. It appears that it was designed
> for high speeds, rather than versatility.


The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
records through a timed gate. This is neither a competition bicycle
for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV. It certainly is not a
tourer but might interest someone who needs a conversation piece,
where it might do for a short time... that is, until the other kids on
the block have all seen it.

Jobst Brandt
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Old 12-14-2004, 12:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:00:08 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <cDHvd.12002$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
>off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
>is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
>records through a timed gate.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. I have seen (even raced in) HPV events
where there are several bikes with this kind of chain layout. Even
road-usable sporting recumbents tend to have the chain dropped off the
front idler for racing. Not all HPV racing is faired, there are
classes for unfaired, faired, "sports" (which have a minimum height
restriction).

>This is neither a competition bicycle
>for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV.


Not fast? With a moderately fit "engine" It would leave me behind
without too much difficulty, and probably you as well :-)

I expect to see bikes like this on tracks at BHPC meets. I think Mr
Larrington will be along any moment now...

I have some pictures from the Reading BHPC meet, and there is one
which seems relevant. Unfortunately it was taken with a very cheap
digital camera, so it's a poor picture, but here it is anyway:

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The bike at the top is the Ratracer B, which has a fore-and-aft front
fork, giving seriously limited steering travel. Look at the RatRacer
below, you'll see that the chain overlaps the front wheel there, too.

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Old 12-14-2004, 12:51 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:00:08 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <cDHvd.12002$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
>off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
>is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
>records through a timed gate.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. I have seen (even raced in) HPV events
where there are several bikes with this kind of chain layout. Even
road-usable sporting recumbents tend to have the chain dropped off the
front idler for racing. Not all HPV racing is faired, there are
classes for unfaired, faired, "sports" (which have a minimum height
restriction).

>This is neither a competition bicycle
>for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV.


Not fast? With a moderately fit "engine" It would leave me behind
without too much difficulty, and probably you as well :-)

I expect to see bikes like this on tracks at BHPC meets. I think Mr
Larrington will be along any moment now...

I have some pictures from the Reading BHPC meet, and there is one
which seems relevant. Unfortunately it was taken with a very cheap
digital camera, so it's a poor picture, but here it is anyway:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

The bike at the top is the Ratracer B, which has a fore-and-aft front
fork, giving seriously limited steering travel. Look at the RatRacer
below, you'll see that the chain overlaps the front wheel there, too.

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Old 12-14-2004, 12:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:00:08 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <cDHvd.12002$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
>off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
>is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
>records through a timed gate.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. I have seen (even raced in) HPV events
where there are several bikes with this kind of chain layout. Even
road-usable sporting recumbents tend to have the chain dropped off the
front idler for racing. Not all HPV racing is faired, there are
classes for unfaired, faired, "sports" (which have a minimum height
restriction).

>This is neither a competition bicycle
>for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV.


Not fast? With a moderately fit "engine" It would leave me behind
without too much difficulty, and probably you as well :-)

I expect to see bikes like this on tracks at BHPC meets. I think Mr
Larrington will be along any moment now...

I have some pictures from the Reading BHPC meet, and there is one
which seems relevant. Unfortunately it was taken with a very cheap
digital camera, so it's a poor picture, but here it is anyway:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

The bike at the top is the Ratracer B, which has a fore-and-aft front
fork, giving seriously limited steering travel. Look at the RatRacer
below, you'll see that the chain overlaps the front wheel there, too.

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Old 12-14-2004, 12:51 PM   #37 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:00:08 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote in message <cDHvd.12002$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>The whole idea is wacko with a tiller for a steerer and a chainwheel
>off to one side, far enough to clear the wheel for small angles. This
>is an aesthetic effort, real fast HPV's are fully faired and set world
>records through a timed gate.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. I have seen (even raced in) HPV events
where there are several bikes with this kind of chain layout. Even
road-usable sporting recumbents tend to have the chain dropped off the
front idler for racing. Not all HPV racing is faired, there are
classes for unfaired, faired, "sports" (which have a minimum height
restriction).

>This is neither a competition bicycle
>for UCI approved events nor is it a fast HPV.


Not fast? With a moderately fit "engine" It would leave me behind
without too much difficulty, and probably you as well :-)

I expect to see bikes like this on tracks at BHPC meets. I think Mr
Larrington will be along any moment now...

I have some pictures from the Reading BHPC meet, and there is one
which seems relevant. Unfortunately it was taken with a very cheap
digital camera, so it's a poor picture, but here it is anyway:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

The bike at the top is the Ratracer B, which has a fore-and-aft front
fork, giving seriously limited steering travel. Look at the RatRacer
below, you'll see that the chain overlaps the front wheel there, too.

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Old 12-14-2004, 01:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Johnny is a troll. I get a laugh out of his posts. Not as good as Fabby
but funny in a pitiful sort of way. OBTW, Johnny has been kicked of
bentrideronline. That makes his fictitious e-mail address funny, too

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Old 12-14-2004, 01:53 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!


Johnny is a troll. I get a laugh out of his posts. Not as good as Fabby
but funny in a pitiful sort of way. OBTW, Johnny has been kicked of
bentrideronline. That makes his fictitious e-mail address funny, too

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Old 12-14-2004, 01:53 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Re: The fastest stock bike in the world. Get yours now!!!


Johnny is a troll. I get a laugh out of his posts. Not as good as Fabby
but funny in a pitiful sort of way. OBTW, Johnny has been kicked of
bentrideronline. That makes his fictitious e-mail address funny, too

--
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