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Old 12-15-2004, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
Bill Baka
 
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Walk or ride?

Time for something new, I hope this isn't old. The last 2 days in
Californias' central valley have been glum, to say the least about the
weather. Yesterday, had a low of 53F and a high of 54F and fog all day.
The visibility and wet ground make for bad conditions around here,
mostly from idiot cagers, but still, not good, so I took me and my feet
out minus a bike. I was planning on only walking maybe a few miles and
after only about a half city block got restless and decided to pick up
the pace. I sped up to a jogging speed and then noticed I was in a high
impact zone, so I sped up to a mild run, much better. About 50 yards
into this and I decided to go a little faster and wound up at near
sprint speed with a nice wind on my face. Running at about 15 MPH was
not all that bad after so much time on the bike. After about 200 yards I
slowed down to a walk again, not really that winded, but wanting to
experiment. I wound up doing this for about 5 miles and found myself
home before the ETA for the shorter walk I had planned. I did find a
LIDAR trap the police had set out and found my max speed to be 17-18 MPH
and a few confused officers looking at me. It was a nice diversion for
two days, but the bike wins out. I couldn't have run like this a year
ago before getting into daily biking. At least I have an alternative
exercise for nearer to home. Five miles is the threshold for my feet
getting blisters (plain sneakers) but it may serve as a warm up to
biking in the future. I found myself totally at ease running except for
the ground I was on made it clear to me to pay attention. Dumping a bike
is one thing, tripping over a hole running is totally another, and more
embarrassing with witnesses. The last time I tripped up badly while
running was 1982 at sunset and I stepped into a large pothole and pulled
a muscle, so two weeks of pain or some road rash? I will take the road
rash as a badge of honor.
Just an estimate of impact values for me, a little table down below.
Impact factors (for me).
Walk = 3 MPH, no impact.
Fast walk = 5 MPH, little impact.
Slow jog = 8 MPH, high impact.
Fast jog = 12 MPH, highest impact.
Slow run = 13 MPH, lower impact, using balls of feet.
Fast run = 15 MPH, still lower impact.
Sprint = 17-18 MPH, what impact, barely touching ground, but not
sustainable.
Biking all low impact.
Slow biking = 13-15 MPH.
Medium biking = 17-18 MPH.
Fast biking = 20-21 MPH.
Slow spring biking = 24-26 MPH.
Fast sprint biking = 30-32 MPH ???.

OK, it's a boring day again so I am trolling a little bit, but that is
where I have been when not doing Christmas type stuff.
Bill Baka

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Old 12-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Walk or ride?

Bill Baka wrote:

:: Impact factors (for me).
:: Walk = 3 MPH, no impact.
:: Fast walk = 5 MPH, little impact.

Interesting. Walk this fast would ruin my feet.

:: Slow jog = 8 MPH, high impact.
:: Fast jog = 12 MPH, highest impact.
:: Slow run = 13 MPH, lower impact, using balls of feet.
:: Fast run = 15 MPH, still lower impact.

:: Sprint = 17-18 MPH, what impact, barely touching ground, but not
:: sustainable.

I personally find that hard to believe. There may be preception issue at
play, but I admit to not knowing anything about it. I've often wondered how
I'd do at running, but since i used to have serious problems with me feet
(back when I weighed 367 lbs), I don't want to risk injury even though I'm
curious.

:: Biking all low impact.
:: Slow biking = 13-15 MPH.
:: Medium biking = 17-18 MPH.
:: Fast biking = 20-21 MPH.
:: Slow spring biking = 24-26 MPH.
:: Fast sprint biking = 30-32 MPH ???.
::
:: OK, it's a boring day again so I am trolling a little bit, but that
:: is where I have been when not doing Christmas type stuff.
:: Bill Baka

Idle chit chat ain't trolling. I thought it was an interesting post. I've
been doing other forms of working out too, for similar reasons.


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Old 12-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Walk or ride?

Bill Baka wrote:

:: Impact factors (for me).
:: Walk = 3 MPH, no impact.
:: Fast walk = 5 MPH, little impact.

Interesting. Walk this fast would ruin my feet.

:: Slow jog = 8 MPH, high impact.
:: Fast jog = 12 MPH, highest impact.
:: Slow run = 13 MPH, lower impact, using balls of feet.
:: Fast run = 15 MPH, still lower impact.

:: Sprint = 17-18 MPH, what impact, barely touching ground, but not
:: sustainable.

I personally find that hard to believe. There may be preception issue at
play, but I admit to not knowing anything about it. I've often wondered how
I'd do at running, but since i used to have serious problems with me feet
(back when I weighed 367 lbs), I don't want to risk injury even though I'm
curious.

:: Biking all low impact.
:: Slow biking = 13-15 MPH.
:: Medium biking = 17-18 MPH.
:: Fast biking = 20-21 MPH.
:: Slow spring biking = 24-26 MPH.
:: Fast sprint biking = 30-32 MPH ???.
::
:: OK, it's a boring day again so I am trolling a little bit, but that
:: is where I have been when not doing Christmas type stuff.
:: Bill Baka

Idle chit chat ain't trolling. I thought it was an interesting post. I've
been doing other forms of working out too, for similar reasons.


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Old 12-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Walk or ride?

Bill Baka wrote:

:: Impact factors (for me).
:: Walk = 3 MPH, no impact.
:: Fast walk = 5 MPH, little impact.

Interesting. Walk this fast would ruin my feet.

:: Slow jog = 8 MPH, high impact.
:: Fast jog = 12 MPH, highest impact.
:: Slow run = 13 MPH, lower impact, using balls of feet.
:: Fast run = 15 MPH, still lower impact.

:: Sprint = 17-18 MPH, what impact, barely touching ground, but not
:: sustainable.

I personally find that hard to believe. There may be preception issue at
play, but I admit to not knowing anything about it. I've often wondered how
I'd do at running, but since i used to have serious problems with me feet
(back when I weighed 367 lbs), I don't want to risk injury even though I'm
curious.

:: Biking all low impact.
:: Slow biking = 13-15 MPH.
:: Medium biking = 17-18 MPH.
:: Fast biking = 20-21 MPH.
:: Slow spring biking = 24-26 MPH.
:: Fast sprint biking = 30-32 MPH ???.
::
:: OK, it's a boring day again so I am trolling a little bit, but that
:: is where I have been when not doing Christmas type stuff.
:: Bill Baka

Idle chit chat ain't trolling. I thought it was an interesting post. I've
been doing other forms of working out too, for similar reasons.


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Old 12-16-2004, 05:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Walk or ride?

Bill Baka wrote:

:: Impact factors (for me).
:: Walk = 3 MPH, no impact.
:: Fast walk = 5 MPH, little impact.

Interesting. Walk this fast would ruin my feet.

:: Slow jog = 8 MPH, high impact.
:: Fast jog = 12 MPH, highest impact.
:: Slow run = 13 MPH, lower impact, using balls of feet.
:: Fast run = 15 MPH, still lower impact.

:: Sprint = 17-18 MPH, what impact, barely touching ground, but not
:: sustainable.

I personally find that hard to believe. There may be preception issue at
play, but I admit to not knowing anything about it. I've often wondered how
I'd do at running, but since i used to have serious problems with me feet
(back when I weighed 367 lbs), I don't want to risk injury even though I'm
curious.

:: Biking all low impact.
:: Slow biking = 13-15 MPH.
:: Medium biking = 17-18 MPH.
:: Fast biking = 20-21 MPH.
:: Slow spring biking = 24-26 MPH.
:: Fast sprint biking = 30-32 MPH ???.
::
:: OK, it's a boring day again so I am trolling a little bit, but that
:: is where I have been when not doing Christmas type stuff.
:: Bill Baka

Idle chit chat ain't trolling. I thought it was an interesting post. I've
been doing other forms of working out too, for similar reasons.


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Old 12-16-2004, 05:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Walk or ride?

> Idle chit chat ain't trolling.
Take a look at those jog/run MPH's again. He's trolling.

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Old 12-16-2004, 05:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Walk or ride?

> Idle chit chat ain't trolling.
Take a look at those jog/run MPH's again. He's trolling.

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Old 12-16-2004, 05:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Walk or ride?

> Idle chit chat ain't trolling.
Take a look at those jog/run MPH's again. He's trolling.

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Old 12-16-2004, 05:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Walk or ride?

> Idle chit chat ain't trolling.
Take a look at those jog/run MPH's again. He's trolling.

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Old 12-16-2004, 07:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
B i l l S o r n s o n
 
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Re: Walk or ride?

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
>> Idle chit chat ain't trolling.

> Take a look at those jog/run MPH's again. He's trolling.


Bill has a small "reality problem". The real question is whether he
believes himself (I'm guessing, apparently!)...

Bill Baka and his sub-4-minute mile runs...

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