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Old 01-13-2005, 09:03 AM   #31 (permalink)
gds
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining


RonSonic wrote:
> On 13 Jan 2005 04:24:08 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>

wrote:
>
> >With the weather in NJ, it is very difficult to get any riding time

in
> >as I've written repeatedly. I have been going to the gym at least
> >three times a week in preparation for my 25 mile ride in May. Last

week
> >my trainer decided that I should use weights. I was told that the

spin
> >class would help with both cardio and leg muscle strength, but I

need
> >upper body strength as well to eventually be in shape to ride long
> >distance. I started out with riding a bike for fun, ended up in a

gym
> >taking spin classes and now I am on weight training equipment

working
> >all the muscles in my body. When I arrived home last night I

started
> >to wonder how buying a bike could lead to all of this. My only goal
> >was to buy a bike and ride for fun. I am now spending more time at

the
> >gym and working on muscle toning. Some of the machines look like
> >torture devices. Is upper body strength really that necessary for
> >riding a bicycle? Or is my trainer trying to convince me that I

should
> >get in shape and not just ride a bike. She is a crazy person (as all
> >trainers in my opinion) and she takes pride in helping people
> >strengthen, tone, look and feel better. Did she use my goal of

riding
> >25 miles to convince me to use the weights or is it essential that I
> >do? What does upper body strength have to do with riding a bike?

Call
> >me stupid, but I really don't think it is that necessary. How much

work
> >are my arms doing when I ride a bike. I want an answer to that. My
> >trainer just tells me, its important...end of discussion. So do you
> >know? I am working my buns off at that gym to ride in a 25 mile

charity
> >fun ride.

>
>
> Here's a guy who has an Olympic gold medal to establish how well and

fast he can
> ride 25 miles http://mitglied.lycos.de/grischafan/tdf02_hamilton5.jpg

and
>

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and
> http://www.whileseated.org/photo/img...8/DSCN1893.jpg . And,

oh, by the
> way, the second picture shows him on his way to fourth place in the

Tour de
> France with a broken collarbone in 2003.
>
> So you tell me how important upper body strength might be.
>
> Fact is, given reasonable health you could do a 25 mile ride with no

preparation
> whatever. It'd turn into a bit of a death march by the end, misery

and slogging
> and suffering. But, you could do it.
>
> OTOH, all of this got you off your butt and working out in a way

nothing else
> has, didn't it.
>
> You should (we all should) just plain get into shape, and the bike is

a part of
> that program, in fact it belongs at the center of it for me.

Exercise without
> targets, objectives, an event or a sport is either too boring or

requires far
> more self-absorption than I can possibly muster. Just being in shape

isn't
> enough motivation for me. My humble schedule of local competitions

for the
> upcoming year is enough. And if I don't get to be the fastest fifty

year old in
> town oh well, I'll be in pretty damn good shape.
>
> Back to the upper body strength, even Tyler Hamilton would do better

with a
> little upper body work out. At least he wouldn't get hurt so bad when

he
> crashes.
>
> Ron


When Jim Ryun held the world record for (running a) mile it was
reported that he could only do one push-up. You wouldn't find that to
be the case today and (almost) all folks involved in training agree
that increased overall strength is a plus. As you say it is just a
matter of priorities and what should be emphasized most.
Besides it's fun to be strong :-)

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Old 01-13-2005, 09:06 AM   #32 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining


Bill Sornson wrote:
> Beverly wrote:
>
> > Thankfully I've only taken one bad spill and it resulted in nothing
> > more than a scrapped elbow.

>
> You had to throw it away? :-P
>
> Bill "slow morning" S.


Spell check just doesn't work for everything

The only thing scrapped was the brake cables, the elbow was simply
scraped.


Beverly

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Old 01-13-2005, 09:06 AM   #33 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining


Bill Sornson wrote:
> Beverly wrote:
>
> > Thankfully I've only taken one bad spill and it resulted in nothing
> > more than a scrapped elbow.

>
> You had to throw it away? :-P
>
> Bill "slow morning" S.


Spell check just doesn't work for everything

The only thing scrapped was the brake cables, the elbow was simply
scraped.


Beverly

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Old 01-13-2005, 09:06 AM   #34 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining


Bill Sornson wrote:
> Beverly wrote:
>
> > Thankfully I've only taken one bad spill and it resulted in nothing
> > more than a scrapped elbow.

>
> You had to throw it away? :-P
>
> Bill "slow morning" S.


Spell check just doesn't work for everything

The only thing scrapped was the brake cables, the elbow was simply
scraped.


Beverly

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Old 01-13-2005, 09:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

Maggie wrote:
:: Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com>
:::
:::
::: Your hubby will love it!
::
::
:: I am married to a jealous Sicilian. Like I need more problems?
::

Gain about 50 lbs and see if you get more problems!

::
::: Is your daughter married yet? If not, tell her that the guys she
::: brings home will look at YOU to get a hint and what she'll look
::: like when she's 50.
::
::
:: She will be married in May of 2006. My future son in law adores me.
:: But I don't think it has anything to do with a "hot" issue.

I hope not...he's not supposed to adore you....

I'm just
:: naturally charming. ;-)

I'm sure you are.


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Old 01-13-2005, 09:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

Maggie wrote:
:: Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com>
:::
:::
::: Your hubby will love it!
::
::
:: I am married to a jealous Sicilian. Like I need more problems?
::

Gain about 50 lbs and see if you get more problems!

::
::: Is your daughter married yet? If not, tell her that the guys she
::: brings home will look at YOU to get a hint and what she'll look
::: like when she's 50.
::
::
:: She will be married in May of 2006. My future son in law adores me.
:: But I don't think it has anything to do with a "hot" issue.

I hope not...he's not supposed to adore you....

I'm just
:: naturally charming. ;-)

I'm sure you are.


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Old 01-13-2005, 09:33 AM   #37 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

Maggie wrote:
:: Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com>
:::
:::
::: Your hubby will love it!
::
::
:: I am married to a jealous Sicilian. Like I need more problems?
::

Gain about 50 lbs and see if you get more problems!

::
::: Is your daughter married yet? If not, tell her that the guys she
::: brings home will look at YOU to get a hint and what she'll look
::: like when she's 50.
::
::
:: She will be married in May of 2006. My future son in law adores me.
:: But I don't think it has anything to do with a "hot" issue.

I hope not...he's not supposed to adore you....

I'm just
:: naturally charming. ;-)

I'm sure you are.


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Old 01-13-2005, 10:12 AM   #38 (permalink)
Mike Latondresse
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

"Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:

> You need to pull against the handlebars as you climb hills. Upper
> body.


Gee I don't pull on the bars climbing hills. I sit and put my hands
near the stem and try and relax my upper body/arms as much as I can.
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:12 AM   #39 (permalink)
Mike Latondresse
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

"Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:

> You need to pull against the handlebars as you climb hills. Upper
> body.


Gee I don't pull on the bars climbing hills. I sit and put my hands
near the stem and try and relax my upper body/arms as much as I can.
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:12 AM   #40 (permalink)
Mike Latondresse
 
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Re: Spining, Spining, Spining

"Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:

> You need to pull against the handlebars as you climb hills. Upper
> body.


Gee I don't pull on the bars climbing hills. I sit and put my hands
near the stem and try and relax my upper body/arms as much as I can.
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