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01-15-2005, 05:15 AM

On 15 Jan 2005 05:54:47 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>frank-in-toronto wrote:
>> On 14 Jan 2005 11:02:25 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip a lot of good advice>
>> ummm. maggie, take this the right way. please. i want to
>> read what you write. but these old eyes aren't so good.
>> could you break your responses into paragraphs?
>> that's all. thanks.
>> ...thehick
>
>If you met me in person you would know that I write the way I speak. I
>go on and on and on and on and on....and eventually when I realize I
>did not breathe for a long time I stop and take a breath. I am the
>proverbial chatterbox. I never stop talking. I guess that is very
>evident in the way I write. I will do the paragraph thang... Do you
>want indentation or double spacing? ;-)
not required. thanks for offering tho. and don't ask me to
capitalize.
....thehick

01-15-2005, 05:15 AM

On 15 Jan 2005 05:54:47 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>frank-in-toronto wrote:
>> On 14 Jan 2005 11:02:25 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip a lot of good advice>
>> ummm. maggie, take this the right way. please. i want to
>> read what you write. but these old eyes aren't so good.
>> could you break your responses into paragraphs?
>> that's all. thanks.
>> ...thehick
>
>If you met me in person you would know that I write the way I speak. I
>go on and on and on and on and on....and eventually when I realize I
>did not breathe for a long time I stop and take a breath. I am the
>proverbial chatterbox. I never stop talking. I guess that is very
>evident in the way I write. I will do the paragraph thang... Do you
>want indentation or double spacing? ;-)
not required. thanks for offering tho. and don't ask me to
capitalize.
....thehick

01-15-2005, 05:15 AM

On 15 Jan 2005 05:54:47 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>frank-in-toronto wrote:
>> On 14 Jan 2005 11:02:25 -0800, "Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip a lot of good advice>
>> ummm. maggie, take this the right way. please. i want to
>> read what you write. but these old eyes aren't so good.
>> could you break your responses into paragraphs?
>> that's all. thanks.
>> ...thehick
>
>If you met me in person you would know that I write the way I speak. I
>go on and on and on and on and on....and eventually when I realize I
>did not breathe for a long time I stop and take a breath. I am the
>proverbial chatterbox. I never stop talking. I guess that is very
>evident in the way I write. I will do the paragraph thang... Do you
>want indentation or double spacing? ;-)
not required. thanks for offering tho. and don't ask me to
capitalize.
....thehick

01-15-2005, 07:05 AM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:48 GMT, "chris c" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I am 35 going on 20. Weigh 169 (weighed 210 last summer!). Lost it quick
>with cycling and a low fat diet. I eat great now also (try to stick to the
>fruit and veg thing). I am in good shape. I have only some fat that I am
>trying to get rid of on the stomach (love handles). I know cycling wont do
>this. I do crunches.
>

Hi, crunches won't do it either. Well they will help, and if the fat
goes away, then you will have muscle to show.Spot reduction doesn't
work. From what I have read, it seems that we all have areas that the
fat seems to go to first and comes off of last. A couple of years ago,
I lost about 40 lbs and I am still struggling to get rid of about
another 5-10 in the midsection, including the love handles. In the
last two years I have biked over 5200 miles, I eat healthy [most of
the time], and work out when not riding. But that last bit of blubber
is still there. The muscle definition in your legs will come with time
and lots of riding. I wouldn't worry about pushing harder gears, I
would just ride.
You give us your weight, but not height. If over 6ft, then 169 is
good, but if you are 5'6", well then you have some work to do.

I just turned 50 and I feel better than I did throgh most of my 40s.
Like you I abused myself with alcohol, drugs, and bad eating. I smoked
everything but tobacco, for 25 years. Six and a half years ago, I quit
everything and then started smoking cigars. Well lat year I cut that
back to about 10 cigars, for the whole year, and I don't get winded
anymore.
I use a heart rate monitor and my max has been in the low 170s. As I
understand it, one sign of a healthy heart, is how fast it slows down,
after exertion. If your drops at least 25 beats in three minutes, that
is good. If not, you may have some problems. Depending on how high it
is, at the start of the three minutes, mine drops 25-40 beats
regularly.

I agree with the others that you should get a physical, at 35, it's a
good idea, anyway.

Life is Good!
Jeff

01-15-2005, 07:05 AM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:48 GMT, "chris c" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I am 35 going on 20. Weigh 169 (weighed 210 last summer!). Lost it quick
>with cycling and a low fat diet. I eat great now also (try to stick to the
>fruit and veg thing). I am in good shape. I have only some fat that I am
>trying to get rid of on the stomach (love handles). I know cycling wont do
>this. I do crunches.
>

Hi, crunches won't do it either. Well they will help, and if the fat
goes away, then you will have muscle to show.Spot reduction doesn't
work. From what I have read, it seems that we all have areas that the
fat seems to go to first and comes off of last. A couple of years ago,
I lost about 40 lbs and I am still struggling to get rid of about
another 5-10 in the midsection, including the love handles. In the
last two years I have biked over 5200 miles, I eat healthy [most of
the time], and work out when not riding. But that last bit of blubber
is still there. The muscle definition in your legs will come with time
and lots of riding. I wouldn't worry about pushing harder gears, I
would just ride.
You give us your weight, but not height. If over 6ft, then 169 is
good, but if you are 5'6", well then you have some work to do.

I just turned 50 and I feel better than I did throgh most of my 40s.
Like you I abused myself with alcohol, drugs, and bad eating. I smoked
everything but tobacco, for 25 years. Six and a half years ago, I quit
everything and then started smoking cigars. Well lat year I cut that
back to about 10 cigars, for the whole year, and I don't get winded
anymore.
I use a heart rate monitor and my max has been in the low 170s. As I
understand it, one sign of a healthy heart, is how fast it slows down,
after exertion. If your drops at least 25 beats in three minutes, that
is good. If not, you may have some problems. Depending on how high it
is, at the start of the three minutes, mine drops 25-40 beats
regularly.

I agree with the others that you should get a physical, at 35, it's a
good idea, anyway.

Life is Good!
Jeff

01-15-2005, 07:05 AM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:57:48 GMT, "chris c" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I am 35 going on 20. Weigh 169 (weighed 210 last summer!). Lost it quick
>with cycling and a low fat diet. I eat great now also (try to stick to the
>fruit and veg thing). I am in good shape. I have only some fat that I am
>trying to get rid of on the stomach (love handles). I know cycling wont do
>this. I do crunches.
>

Hi, crunches won't do it either. Well they will help, and if the fat
goes away, then you will have muscle to show.Spot reduction doesn't
work. From what I have read, it seems that we all have areas that the
fat seems to go to first and comes off of last. A couple of years ago,
I lost about 40 lbs and I am still struggling to get rid of about
another 5-10 in the midsection, including the love handles. In the
last two years I have biked over 5200 miles, I eat healthy [most of
the time], and work out when not riding. But that last bit of blubber
is still there. The muscle definition in your legs will come with time
and lots of riding. I wouldn't worry about pushing harder gears, I
would just ride.
You give us your weight, but not height. If over 6ft, then 169 is
good, but if you are 5'6", well then you have some work to do.

I just turned 50 and I feel better than I did throgh most of my 40s.
Like you I abused myself with alcohol, drugs, and bad eating. I smoked
everything but tobacco, for 25 years. Six and a half years ago, I quit
everything and then started smoking cigars. Well lat year I cut that
back to about 10 cigars, for the whole year, and I don't get winded
anymore.
I use a heart rate monitor and my max has been in the low 170s. As I
understand it, one sign of a healthy heart, is how fast it slows down,
after exertion. If your drops at least 25 beats in three minutes, that
is good. If not, you may have some problems. Depending on how high it
is, at the start of the three minutes, mine drops 25-40 beats
regularly.

I agree with the others that you should get a physical, at 35, it's a
good idea, anyway.

Life is Good!
Jeff

01-15-2005, 02:16 PM

And Bill Baka is writing this one for Maggie and the over 40s.

chris c wrote:
> OK maybe I feel 20. I was into the bad stuff as a teen up until my lower 20s
> so I guess I do feel better than when I was 20. I ate crappy , smoked pot,
> etc.
>
There are 3 known side effects of smoking pot that I know of from
experience.
1. You will sleep very soundly and get up for work the next day without
a hangover so that is a good thing.
2. You will probably gain weight and should never EVER go grocery
shopping while stoned. I did and came back with 5 carts full of every
kind of food you can think of. No driving since the store was a 100 foot
path from my back yard. If you want to gain weight and spend money this
is the way to go. No direct harm if you bike when not toking.
3. The only bad thing that happens as a consequence of enjoying yourself
is you will get guys with badges and guns at your door offering to take
you for a ride downtown to make new and not quite so savory friends.

>>35 feeling like 25? OK....I don't see alot of difference in that one.
>>Now if you were 45 and felt 25....then I would say you were one lucky
>>dude. Somehow I can't see much difference between 35 and 25. Maybe
>>35 and 20....or even 40 and 35....or...55 and 35...(get my drift?) I
>>felt fabulous at 35.

What I noticed was that moving heavy furniture around and lifting stuff
and doing all that sort of thing I still felt 18 or so, (at 56)! It has
got to have at least something to do with the bicycle riding and can't
just be inheriting good genes, can it? You could have the 120 year old
genes and still drop dead at 50 if you smoked, drank, lived next door to
a McDonald s, and never exercised.

I think I started feeling and thinking about my
>>age around 40. Plus every doctor visit would include...NOW THAT YOU ARE
>>OVER 40 YADA YADA YADA.... Thats when I went into a major midlife
>>crisis. I was 40 acting like a 20 year old. I have no clue how I
>>survived my 40's. So when you are 40...let me know how you feel. A 35
>>year old that feels 25 doesn't seem like such a big deal. My kids age
>>from 22 to 30. I don't see any huge difference in them physically at
>>this point. I truly believe 40 is a milestone thus, the midlife crisis.
>>So be on the alert. At 40 you may revert to behaving like a teenager
>>who does not want to grow up, but whose body is saying....hey, take
>>care of me....I'm getting older...please!!!!!
>>Maggie
>>
>
>
>
Maggie,
At 56 I am teaching my grandchildren the fine art of climbing trees, how
to gracefully stand on their heads and roll back down to a standing
position, run fast and long instead of the 20 feet run across the
street, and so much more than the collective parents. I have a 10 year
old Granddaughter and a 13 year old grandson and it seems like I have to
teach then how to play and get the most out of it. There are at present
5 other kids, all girls who come along on our adventure walks/runs/rides
when nobody has flat tires. I have no idea what my heart rate is at
those points but it is better than sitting on a couch watching
television by far. 4 or 5 smiling faces ages 8 to 13 makes for better
entertainment than anything I have yet to see on a BOOB tube.
If your doctor gives you any old age tips ask him/her to run up and down
the stairs in the office building the clinic is in and you will end that
line of doctorial reasoning. I may be 56 but have been blessed with no
heart/lung/arthritis problems so I go out and run around like one of the
kids. That is great for them but some of the parents standing or sitting
on their porch smoking a cig, and drinking a beer look at me as if I am
the crazy one. I can run the kids into the ground and I don't think the
parents would make it across the street to get into a serious race with
me. Act like a kid and stay young, it works. I haven't even gotten to
the grey hair thing yet even though I had a technician working for me
who at 42 had all grey hair. Think positive, like winning a big race to
commemorate 2025 or something.
I am thinking ahead to 2048 when I can run for my 100th birthday.
Top that for optimism.
Great to be alive today.
Bill Baka

01-15-2005, 02:16 PM

And Bill Baka is writing this one for Maggie and the over 40s.

chris c wrote:
> OK maybe I feel 20. I was into the bad stuff as a teen up until my lower 20s
> so I guess I do feel better than when I was 20. I ate crappy , smoked pot,
> etc.
>
There are 3 known side effects of smoking pot that I know of from
experience.
1. You will sleep very soundly and get up for work the next day without
a hangover so that is a good thing.
2. You will probably gain weight and should never EVER go grocery
shopping while stoned. I did and came back with 5 carts full of every
kind of food you can think of. No driving since the store was a 100 foot
path from my back yard. If you want to gain weight and spend money this
is the way to go. No direct harm if you bike when not toking.
3. The only bad thing that happens as a consequence of enjoying yourself
is you will get guys with badges and guns at your door offering to take
you for a ride downtown to make new and not quite so savory friends.

>>35 feeling like 25? OK....I don't see alot of difference in that one.
>>Now if you were 45 and felt 25....then I would say you were one lucky
>>dude. Somehow I can't see much difference between 35 and 25. Maybe
>>35 and 20....or even 40 and 35....or...55 and 35...(get my drift?) I
>>felt fabulous at 35.

What I noticed was that moving heavy furniture around and lifting stuff
and doing all that sort of thing I still felt 18 or so, (at 56)! It has
got to have at least something to do with the bicycle riding and can't
just be inheriting good genes, can it? You could have the 120 year old
genes and still drop dead at 50 if you smoked, drank, lived next door to
a McDonald s, and never exercised.

I think I started feeling and thinking about my
>>age around 40. Plus every doctor visit would include...NOW THAT YOU ARE
>>OVER 40 YADA YADA YADA.... Thats when I went into a major midlife
>>crisis. I was 40 acting like a 20 year old. I have no clue how I
>>survived my 40's. So when you are 40...let me know how you feel. A 35
>>year old that feels 25 doesn't seem like such a big deal. My kids age
>>from 22 to 30. I don't see any huge difference in them physically at
>>this point. I truly believe 40 is a milestone thus, the midlife crisis.
>>So be on the alert. At 40 you may revert to behaving like a teenager
>>who does not want to grow up, but whose body is saying....hey, take
>>care of me....I'm getting older...please!!!!!
>>Maggie
>>
>
>
>
Maggie,
At 56 I am teaching my grandchildren the fine art of climbing trees, how
to gracefully stand on their heads and roll back down to a standing
position, run fast and long instead of the 20 feet run across the
street, and so much more than the collective parents. I have a 10 year
old Granddaughter and a 13 year old grandson and it seems like I have to
teach then how to play and get the most out of it. There are at present
5 other kids, all girls who come along on our adventure walks/runs/rides
when nobody has flat tires. I have no idea what my heart rate is at
those points but it is better than sitting on a couch watching
television by far. 4 or 5 smiling faces ages 8 to 13 makes for better
entertainment than anything I have yet to see on a BOOB tube.
If your doctor gives you any old age tips ask him/her to run up and down
the stairs in the office building the clinic is in and you will end that
line of doctorial reasoning. I may be 56 but have been blessed with no
heart/lung/arthritis problems so I go out and run around like one of the
kids. That is great for them but some of the parents standing or sitting
on their porch smoking a cig, and drinking a beer look at me as if I am
the crazy one. I can run the kids into the ground and I don't think the
parents would make it across the street to get into a serious race with
me. Act like a kid and stay young, it works. I haven't even gotten to
the grey hair thing yet even though I had a technician working for me
who at 42 had all grey hair. Think positive, like winning a big race to
commemorate 2025 or something.
I am thinking ahead to 2048 when I can run for my 100th birthday.
Top that for optimism.
Great to be alive today.
Bill Baka

01-15-2005, 02:16 PM

And Bill Baka is writing this one for Maggie and the over 40s.

chris c wrote:
> OK maybe I feel 20. I was into the bad stuff as a teen up until my lower 20s
> so I guess I do feel better than when I was 20. I ate crappy , smoked pot,
> etc.
>
There are 3 known side effects of smoking pot that I know of from
experience.
1. You will sleep very soundly and get up for work the next day without
a hangover so that is a good thing.
2. You will probably gain weight and should never EVER go grocery
shopping while stoned. I did and came back with 5 carts full of every
kind of food you can think of. No driving since the store was a 100 foot
path from my back yard. If you want to gain weight and spend money this
is the way to go. No direct harm if you bike when not toking.
3. The only bad thing that happens as a consequence of enjoying yourself
is you will get guys with badges and guns at your door offering to take
you for a ride downtown to make new and not quite so savory friends.

>>35 feeling like 25? OK....I don't see alot of difference in that one.
>>Now if you were 45 and felt 25....then I would say you were one lucky
>>dude. Somehow I can't see much difference between 35 and 25. Maybe
>>35 and 20....or even 40 and 35....or...55 and 35...(get my drift?) I
>>felt fabulous at 35.

What I noticed was that moving heavy furniture around and lifting stuff
and doing all that sort of thing I still felt 18 or so, (at 56)! It has
got to have at least something to do with the bicycle riding and can't
just be inheriting good genes, can it? You could have the 120 year old
genes and still drop dead at 50 if you smoked, drank, lived next door to
a McDonald s, and never exercised.

I think I started feeling and thinking about my
>>age around 40. Plus every doctor visit would include...NOW THAT YOU ARE
>>OVER 40 YADA YADA YADA.... Thats when I went into a major midlife
>>crisis. I was 40 acting like a 20 year old. I have no clue how I
>>survived my 40's. So when you are 40...let me know how you feel. A 35
>>year old that feels 25 doesn't seem like such a big deal. My kids age
>>from 22 to 30. I don't see any huge difference in them physically at
>>this point. I truly believe 40 is a milestone thus, the midlife crisis.
>>So be on the alert. At 40 you may revert to behaving like a teenager
>>who does not want to grow up, but whose body is saying....hey, take
>>care of me....I'm getting older...please!!!!!
>>Maggie
>>
>
>
>
Maggie,
At 56 I am teaching my grandchildren the fine art of climbing trees, how
to gracefully stand on their heads and roll back down to a standing
position, run fast and long instead of the 20 feet run across the
street, and so much more than the collective parents. I have a 10 year
old Granddaughter and a 13 year old grandson and it seems like I have to
teach then how to play and get the most out of it. There are at present
5 other kids, all girls who come along on our adventure walks/runs/rides
when nobody has flat tires. I have no idea what my heart rate is at
those points but it is better than sitting on a couch watching
television by far. 4 or 5 smiling faces ages 8 to 13 makes for better
entertainment than anything I have yet to see on a BOOB tube.
If your doctor gives you any old age tips ask him/her to run up and down
the stairs in the office building the clinic is in and you will end that
line of doctorial reasoning. I may be 56 but have been blessed with no
heart/lung/arthritis problems so I go out and run around like one of the
kids. That is great for them but some of the parents standing or sitting
on their porch smoking a cig, and drinking a beer look at me as if I am
the crazy one. I can run the kids into the ground and I don't think the
parents would make it across the street to get into a serious race with
me. Act like a kid and stay young, it works. I haven't even gotten to
the grey hair thing yet even though I had a technician working for me
who at 42 had all grey hair. Think positive, like winning a big race to
commemorate 2025 or something.
I am thinking ahead to 2048 when I can run for my 100th birthday.
Top that for optimism.
Great to be alive today.
Bill Baka

01-15-2005, 02:21 PM

chris c wrote:
> I am 35 going on 20. Weigh 169 (weighed 210 last summer!). Lost it quick
> with cycling and a low fat diet. I eat great now also (try to stick to the
> fruit and veg thing). I am in good shape. I have only some fat that I am
> trying to get rid of on the stomach (love handles). I know cycling wont do
> this. I do crunches.
>
I got to ask if it is diet related but I was up to 200 at 5'7" and now
down to 158, up from 142 before the holiday food fest began, how do you
get love handles? I never had that problem, so is it maybe from beer, or
some dietary thing, or just a personal genetic inheritance?

Not ragging on you but I am 56 and never had that. I have seen some of
the actors on television that were basically in shape but still had
those little rings of fat. Male models too, the 30ish ones.
Bill ??? Baka