Trek bike weights and tire sizes - ping Mike Jacoubowsky?

01-17-2005, 06:06 AM

Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
lined up.

I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under 19lbs
category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or x32-ish
tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really planning
on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

I know this might be incompatible with a racing bike...however Jamis seems
to have a bike that will accomplish this (it's probably in the 23-24lb
category, though).

So perhaps a better question is which Trek roughly compares with the Fuji
Roubaix and still allows a wider tire; and which one(s) roughly compares to
the Jamis Quest?

I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
catalogue and the web page...

I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.

As a comparison, for Fuji, it's the Roubaix, and the price is 1300ish. Can
Trek meet or beat this bike on features and price?

jj

01-17-2005, 08:15 AM

> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...

Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
compare.

> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.

Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
weather here).

> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
> I know this might be incompatible with a racing bike...however Jamis seems
> to have a bike that will accomplish this (it's probably in the 23-24lb
> category, though).
>
> So perhaps a better question is which Trek roughly compares with the Fuji
> Roubaix and still allows a wider tire; and which one(s) roughly compares
> to
> the Jamis Quest?
>
> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...
>
> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
> As a comparison, for Fuji, it's the Roubaix, and the price is 1300ish. Can
> Trek meet or beat this bike on features and price?
>
> jj
>
>
>

01-17-2005, 08:15 AM

> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...

Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
compare.

> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.

Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
weather here).

> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
> I know this might be incompatible with a racing bike...however Jamis seems
> to have a bike that will accomplish this (it's probably in the 23-24lb
> category, though).
>
> So perhaps a better question is which Trek roughly compares with the Fuji
> Roubaix and still allows a wider tire; and which one(s) roughly compares
> to
> the Jamis Quest?
>
> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...
>
> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
> As a comparison, for Fuji, it's the Roubaix, and the price is 1300ish. Can
> Trek meet or beat this bike on features and price?
>
> jj
>
>
>

01-17-2005, 08:15 AM

> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...

Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
compare.

> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.

Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
weather here).

> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
> 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
> x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
> planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
> I know this might be incompatible with a racing bike...however Jamis seems
> to have a bike that will accomplish this (it's probably in the 23-24lb
> category, though).
>
> So perhaps a better question is which Trek roughly compares with the Fuji
> Roubaix and still allows a wider tire; and which one(s) roughly compares
> to
> the Jamis Quest?
>
> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
> catalogue and the web page...
>
> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
> As a comparison, for Fuji, it's the Roubaix, and the price is 1300ish. Can
> Trek meet or beat this bike on features and price?
>
> jj
>
>
>

01-17-2005, 08:21 AM

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

I can't answer your Trek questions, but I've got 700x26mm road tires on my road bike
(sport-tourer I think), and they work fine for occasional mud or light dirt trail riding.
I do have full fenders, which are a tricky fit on most road bikes, but very nice when it's
wet or muddy, and I have room for bigger tires (not sure how much would tire fit under
the fenders though), but no need.

01-17-2005, 08:21 AM

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

I can't answer your Trek questions, but I've got 700x26mm road tires on my road bike
(sport-tourer I think), and they work fine for occasional mud or light dirt trail riding.
I do have full fenders, which are a tricky fit on most road bikes, but very nice when it's
wet or muddy, and I have room for bigger tires (not sure how much would tire fit under
the fenders though), but no need.

01-17-2005, 08:21 AM

"jj" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>
> Hi Mike. I'm having trouble with a couple partics on getting my roadbike
> lined up.
>
> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under 19lbs
> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or x32-ish
> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really planning
> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?

I can't answer your Trek questions, but I've got 700x26mm road tires on my road bike
(sport-tourer I think), and they work fine for occasional mud or light dirt trail riding.
I do have full fenders, which are a tricky fit on most road bikes, but very nice when it's
wet or muddy, and I have room for bigger tires (not sure how much would tire fit under
the fenders though), but no need.

01-17-2005, 08:51 AM

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:15:57 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
>> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
>> catalogue and the web page...
>
>Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
>do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
>the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
>you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
>and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
>compare.
>
>> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
>> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
>Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
>think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
>if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
>weather here).
>
>> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
>> 19lbs
>> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
>> x32-ish
>> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
>> planning
>> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
>The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
>that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
>would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
>difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
>the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
>having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
>looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
>here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Thanks, Mike

The V looks like a lot of bike for the money. Reves have those nice
smoothed welds, too, iirc. I could imagine going up to 1.6 or 1.7K if a
bike really makes me go 'wow'. I'll have to look into the elastomer thing.

Thanks for the link. (I swear we didn't pre-arrange this, group) ;-P
jj

You might have a typo here: <cut&pasted>

3 GREAT MODELS

* Reve X ('105)

* Reve XV (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)

------------------------------------
Probably should be:

* Reve V ('105)

* Reve X (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)

01-17-2005, 08:51 AM

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:15:57 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
>> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
>> catalogue and the web page...
>
>Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
>do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
>the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
>you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
>and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
>compare.
>
>> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
>> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
>Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
>think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
>if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
>weather here).
>
>> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
>> 19lbs
>> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
>> x32-ish
>> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
>> planning
>> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
>The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
>that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
>would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
>difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
>the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
>having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
>looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
>here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Thanks, Mike

The V looks like a lot of bike for the money. Reves have those nice
smoothed welds, too, iirc. I could imagine going up to 1.6 or 1.7K if a
bike really makes me go 'wow'. I'll have to look into the elastomer thing.

Thanks for the link. (I swear we didn't pre-arrange this, group) ;-P
jj

You might have a typo here: <cut&pasted>

3 GREAT MODELS

* Reve X ('105)

* Reve XV (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)

------------------------------------
Probably should be:

* Reve V ('105)

* Reve X (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)

01-17-2005, 08:51 AM

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:15:57 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>> I think it deters potential buyers not to have the bike's weight and price
>> on the page. Trek used to have this, but afaik, both are omitted from the
>> catalogue and the web page...
>
>Most manufacturers have dropped weights from their specs, because those that
>do often list weights that are, er, a bit on the hopeful side? So you have
>the choice of listing a bogus weight to look competitive, a real weight and
>you look heavy, or no weight at all. No weight is probably the best choice,
>and let the customer weigh the bikes in the shop and have something real to
>compare.
>
>> I'm looking at the Trek 1200, the 1500, and the 2100. Approx prices and
>> weights. No idea where the weight drops below 20lbs, though.
>
>Not sure, but I think the 1500 is a bit higher than 20, and the 2100, I
>think, is almost exactly at 20lbs. I'll try and weigh a couple later today
>if I have the time (could be a busy day; finally getting some really nice
>weather here).
>
>> I'd like to know approximately where the road bikes drop to the under
>> 19lbs
>> category. However I'd still like an option to put a wider 700x30 or
>> x32-ish
>> tire on it if riding more rugged terrain - mind you I'm not really
>> planning
>> on going off road. Are the lighter bikes limited to 700x28?
>
>The only really nice road bike (and it's a *really* nice road bike) we stock
>that's both very light and will handle tires as large as you're looking for
>would be the Klein Reve. Don't ride one, as it's out of your price range,
>difficult to find in the right size, and may blow you away. The elastomer at
>the tail end really does work; my brother just picked up the Reve XX and is
>having a great time with it. But, as I mentioned, it's more than you're
>looking to spend at $1600. But if you want to tempt yourself, more info is
>here- [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Thanks, Mike

The V looks like a lot of bike for the money. Reves have those nice
smoothed welds, too, iirc. I could imagine going up to 1.6 or 1.7K if a
bike really makes me go 'wow'. I'll have to look into the elastomer thing.

Thanks for the link. (I swear we didn't pre-arrange this, group) ;-P
jj

You might have a typo here: <cut&pasted>

3 GREAT MODELS

* Reve X ('105)

* Reve XV (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)

------------------------------------
Probably should be:

* Reve V ('105)

* Reve X (Campy Veloce)

* Reve XX (Dura-Ace)