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Old 02-28-2005, 04:54 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

Amazingly, this winter in Colorado I have been able to ride comfortably
outside every single week, sometimes several days per week.
Comfortable (for me) is 45F or warmer and winds less than 15 mph. This
is pretty amazing compared with some of the previous winters. So, my
indoor trainer time has been kept to a minimum. At the most, I do 45
minutes to an hour on the indoor trainer, using a video for motivation.

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Old 02-28-2005, 06:41 AM   #42 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

On 28 Feb 2005 04:30:39 -0800, Maggie wrote:
>
> Neil Cherry wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:23:15 -0000, wafflycat wrote:
>> >
>> > "chris c" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> > news:3PbUd.10428$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].ny...
>> >>I live in Western NY so the roads are all flat except for your

> minor hills
>> >> and that. If I do 10 miles on my staionary bike everyday, will it

> be easy
>> >> for me to do 10 miles on the road bike? Obviously the speed is

> harder to
>> >> keep the same especially on hills. I find myself aroun 20 mph on

> the st.
>> >> bike. Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I much prefer rding a real bike on the road than a pretned

> stationary one
>> >:-) Being out in the fresh air on a bike is way more interesting and

> fun
>> > than being on a stationary one indoors. On a real bike, 10 miles is

> heaven
>> > for me, on a stationary one, 10 miles is hell.

>>
>> I really have to agree! Though I can't push myself to ride on the

> road
>> at a consistant 25 mph pace (I can on the rollers) I can ride for
>> hours at 18 mph (solo), on the road, for about 100 miles. The thought
>> of riding for less than ~6 hours on the rollers would be insane ,

> even
>> if it were at 18 mph. 25 miles is the limit for me on the rollers and
>> is barely a lunchtime ride.


> I wish the weather would get better in Jersey so I could figure out if
> it is easier to ride on a stationary bike or ride out on the road. I
> have become good friends with the bike which does not go anywhere.
> This weather is getting freaking ridiculous. Having a bike in Jersey
> is like owning a boat boat in the desert. Nice to have it, but what do
> you do with it?


Only 22 days 'til spring!

OK, here is some good news (no really), if you can ride on a spin bike
for 1 hour at a reasonable pace (for what you intend to do) then you
can do it on a bike on the road. No they're not the same but the
differences balance out (close enough for government work). There are
a whole lot of factors to take into account for your 25 mile ride.
Psychologically, being able to go out and ride a similar distance is a
big plus but that won't come until we get some decent weather. But
there is the physiological part also. I like to call it saddle time. I
find that in the early season that the legs are willing but the rump
is raw (the mind is long gone :-). This limits my early season riding
a huge amount. But if I ride the rollers (consistently) for an hour I
have no trouble with rides up to 62 miles (100Km). After 62 I need to
build up saddle time or my rump gets raw (this is without Butt
Butter). I don't expect you to be able to ride 62 miles as it took me
a few years to build up to that but I believe 25 will be easier than
you think especially once you do it.


> Maggie...thinking of moving to the Keys.


Cape May? ;-)


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Old 02-28-2005, 06:41 AM   #43 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

On 28 Feb 2005 04:30:39 -0800, Maggie wrote:
>
> Neil Cherry wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:23:15 -0000, wafflycat wrote:
>> >
>> > "chris c" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> > news:3PbUd.10428$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].ny...
>> >>I live in Western NY so the roads are all flat except for your

> minor hills
>> >> and that. If I do 10 miles on my staionary bike everyday, will it

> be easy
>> >> for me to do 10 miles on the road bike? Obviously the speed is

> harder to
>> >> keep the same especially on hills. I find myself aroun 20 mph on

> the st.
>> >> bike. Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I much prefer rding a real bike on the road than a pretned

> stationary one
>> >:-) Being out in the fresh air on a bike is way more interesting and

> fun
>> > than being on a stationary one indoors. On a real bike, 10 miles is

> heaven
>> > for me, on a stationary one, 10 miles is hell.

>>
>> I really have to agree! Though I can't push myself to ride on the

> road
>> at a consistant 25 mph pace (I can on the rollers) I can ride for
>> hours at 18 mph (solo), on the road, for about 100 miles. The thought
>> of riding for less than ~6 hours on the rollers would be insane ,

> even
>> if it were at 18 mph. 25 miles is the limit for me on the rollers and
>> is barely a lunchtime ride.


> I wish the weather would get better in Jersey so I could figure out if
> it is easier to ride on a stationary bike or ride out on the road. I
> have become good friends with the bike which does not go anywhere.
> This weather is getting freaking ridiculous. Having a bike in Jersey
> is like owning a boat boat in the desert. Nice to have it, but what do
> you do with it?


Only 22 days 'til spring!

OK, here is some good news (no really), if you can ride on a spin bike
for 1 hour at a reasonable pace (for what you intend to do) then you
can do it on a bike on the road. No they're not the same but the
differences balance out (close enough for government work). There are
a whole lot of factors to take into account for your 25 mile ride.
Psychologically, being able to go out and ride a similar distance is a
big plus but that won't come until we get some decent weather. But
there is the physiological part also. I like to call it saddle time. I
find that in the early season that the legs are willing but the rump
is raw (the mind is long gone :-). This limits my early season riding
a huge amount. But if I ride the rollers (consistently) for an hour I
have no trouble with rides up to 62 miles (100Km). After 62 I need to
build up saddle time or my rump gets raw (this is without Butt
Butter). I don't expect you to be able to ride 62 miles as it took me
a few years to build up to that but I believe 25 will be easier than
you think especially once you do it.


> Maggie...thinking of moving to the Keys.


Cape May? ;-)


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Old 02-28-2005, 07:59 AM   #44 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:38:26 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net> wrote:

>
>"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip) If not, would anyone be willing to make me a
>copy of any of the spinervals. I would happily pay for the blank tape,
>shipping, and ???(clip)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Jeff, maybe you don't realize that this would be a violation of the
>copyright. I know it's done all the time, but not by me--it's the same as
>stealing.
>



Hi, yes you are correct, it isn't the right thing to do. So, I'll
amend my request, does anyone have any spin videos that they no longer
use? Would you like to sell them?

I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of any type. Often the
music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers and the artists
need all the support that they can get. One good example of this is
Juliana Hatfield.


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Old 02-28-2005, 07:59 AM   #45 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:38:26 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net> wrote:

>
>"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip) If not, would anyone be willing to make me a
>copy of any of the spinervals. I would happily pay for the blank tape,
>shipping, and ???(clip)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Jeff, maybe you don't realize that this would be a violation of the
>copyright. I know it's done all the time, but not by me--it's the same as
>stealing.
>



Hi, yes you are correct, it isn't the right thing to do. So, I'll
amend my request, does anyone have any spin videos that they no longer
use? Would you like to sell them?

I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of any type. Often the
music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers and the artists
need all the support that they can get. One good example of this is
Juliana Hatfield.


Life is Good!
Jeff
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:58 AM   #46 (permalink)
Leo Lichtman
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?


"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip)I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of
any type. Often the music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers
and the artists need all the support that they can get. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good for you, Jeff! Some of my friends copy and trade recorded music
freely, and they think I am kind of odd for not doing it. It's amazing how
they rationalize what they do: "CD's are way overpriced." "Anything that
encourages more listening is good." "The musicians are being screwed by the
recording companies anyway, so it doesn't make any difference."


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Old 02-28-2005, 09:58 AM   #47 (permalink)
Leo Lichtman
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?


"Jeff Starr" wrote: (clip)I honestly don't make a habit of copying media of
any type. Often the music that I listen to, doesn't sell in large numbers
and the artists need all the support that they can get. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good for you, Jeff! Some of my friends copy and trade recorded music
freely, and they think I am kind of odd for not doing it. It's amazing how
they rationalize what they do: "CD's are way overpriced." "Anything that
encourages more listening is good." "The musicians are being screwed by the
recording companies anyway, so it doesn't make any difference."


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Old 02-28-2005, 01:18 PM   #48 (permalink)
Dominic Sansom
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?


10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even i
front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but
can ride all day in the road

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Old 02-28-2005, 01:18 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?


10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even i
front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but
can ride all day in the road

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Old 02-28-2005, 02:29 PM   #50 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: 10 miles on a road bike compared to same on a stationary bike?

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:18:01 +1100, Dominic Sansom wrote:
>
> 10 minutes on a stationary bike and I'm bored out of my skull (even in
> front of the TV... or should say "espesially" in front of the TV) but I
> can ride all day in the road.


I used to fall asleep on the rollers (actually kind of comical). I
stopped that by increasing the tempo to the point I was guaranteed not
to be able to fall asleep. I think I was in the 75-85% range. I'd
rather climb a real mountain than ride the rollers but i'd rather ride
the rollers than stare at snow wishing I could ride!

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