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Old 02-28-2005, 02:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
Steve Sr.
 
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Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

Bike Folks,

I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
(preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
spare parts.

Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
seat tube.

Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
with the new 10-speed setup?


Thanks,

Steve

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Old 02-28-2005, 03:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
Diablo Scott
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

Steve Sr. wrote:

> Bike Folks,
>
> I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
> for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
> for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
> another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
> spare parts.
>
> Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
> 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
> in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
> deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
> seat tube.
>
> Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
> with the new 10-speed setup?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>

1. It's "gruppo"
2. It's "triple"
3. It's "derailleur"
4. It's available just about everywhere for now.


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Old 02-28-2005, 03:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
Diablo Scott
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

Steve Sr. wrote:

> Bike Folks,
>
> I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
> for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
> for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
> another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
> spare parts.
>
> Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
> 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
> in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
> deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
> seat tube.
>
> Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
> with the new 10-speed setup?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>

1. It's "gruppo"
2. It's "triple"
3. It's "derailleur"
4. It's available just about everywhere for now.


--
My bike blog:
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:47:52 -0500, Steve Sr. <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Bike Folks,
>
>I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
>for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
>10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
>for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
>(preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
>another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
>spare parts.
>
>Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
>170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
>in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
>deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
>seat tube.
>
>Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
>with the new 10-speed setup?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve


Hi Dura-Ace triple is still available in 9-speed. You can usually
find 9-speed 12-27 cassettes, in Ultegra. Any of Shimano's long cage
rear derailleurs will work fine. For the front derailleur use a
Dura-Ace triple.
Actually, I just checked Performance, they have the 9-speed Ultegra in
stock, take a look:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

If you join Team Performance, for $20, you can get the DA triple
carank $399, as a member for $279.96. For your $20 you also get 10%
off on your next purchase and 2nd Day shipping for Ground rates.
For anyone planning on spending more than $200 at Performance in a
year, then Team Performance is a good deal.

For Ultegra cassettes, I have had good luck finding all sizes at Excel
Sports, they have the 12-27 and my preference the 14-25 in stock.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

There are 9-speed parts available all over the internet, very easy to
find.


Life is Good!
Jeff
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
Jeff Starr
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:47:52 -0500, Steve Sr. <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Bike Folks,
>
>I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
>for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
>10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
>for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
>(preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
>another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
>spare parts.
>
>Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
>170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
>in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
>deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
>seat tube.
>
>Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
>with the new 10-speed setup?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve


Hi Dura-Ace triple is still available in 9-speed. You can usually
find 9-speed 12-27 cassettes, in Ultegra. Any of Shimano's long cage
rear derailleurs will work fine. For the front derailleur use a
Dura-Ace triple.
Actually, I just checked Performance, they have the 9-speed Ultegra in
stock, take a look:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

If you join Team Performance, for $20, you can get the DA triple
carank $399, as a member for $279.96. For your $20 you also get 10%
off on your next purchase and 2nd Day shipping for Ground rates.
For anyone planning on spending more than $200 at Performance in a
year, then Team Performance is a good deal.

For Ultegra cassettes, I have had good luck finding all sizes at Excel
Sports, they have the 12-27 and my preference the 14-25 in stock.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

There are 9-speed parts available all over the internet, very easy to
find.


Life is Good!
Jeff
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
Ted
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>,
Diablo Scott <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Steve Sr. wrote:
>
> > Bike Folks,
> >
> > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
> > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
> > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
> > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
> > spare parts.
> >
> > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
> > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
> > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
> > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
> > seat tube.
> >
> > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
> > with the new 10-speed setup?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >

> 1. It's "gruppo"
> 2. It's "triple"
> 3. It's "derailleur"
> 4. It's available just about everywhere for now.


Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!

1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
English-speaking environs, it's "group".

2. Yep.

3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
"Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
explains what it does.

4. Yep, again.

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Portland, OR
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
Ted
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?

In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>,
Diablo Scott <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Steve Sr. wrote:
>
> > Bike Folks,
> >
> > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
> > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
> > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
> > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
> > spare parts.
> >
> > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
> > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
> > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
> > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a 31.6mm
> > seat tube.
> >
> > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
> > with the new 10-speed setup?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >

> 1. It's "gruppo"
> 2. It's "triple"
> 3. It's "derailleur"
> 4. It's available just about everywhere for now.


Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!

1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
English-speaking environs, it's "group".

2. Yep.

3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
"Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
explains what it does.

4. Yep, again.

--
Ted Bennett
Portland, OR
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
russellseaton1@yahoo.com
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?


Ted wrote:
> In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>,
> Diablo Scott <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Steve Sr. wrote:
> >
> > > Bike Folks,
> > >
> > > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and

looking
> > > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> > > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the

same
> > > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> > > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also

have
> > > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of

redundant
> > > spare parts.
> > >
> > > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank

with
> > > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so

cassette
> > > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range

rear
> > > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a

31.6mm
> > > seat tube.
> > >
> > > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to

go
> > > with the new 10-speed setup?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >

> > 1. It's "gruppo"
> > 2. It's "triple"
> > 3. It's "derailleur"
> > 4. It's available just about everywhere for now.

>
> Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!
>
> 1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
> English-speaking environs, it's "group".
>
> 2. Yep.
>
> 3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
> "Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
> explains what it does.



Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown
word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a
bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English
dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not
find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a
made up word.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]




>
> 4. Yep, again.
>
> --
> Ted Bennett
> Portland, OR


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Old 03-01-2005, 06:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
russellseaton1@yahoo.com
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?


Ted wrote:
> In article <1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews>,
> Diablo Scott <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Steve Sr. wrote:
> >
> > > Bike Folks,
> > >
> > > I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and

looking
> > > for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> > > 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the

same
> > > for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> > > (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also

have
> > > another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of

redundant
> > > spare parts.
> > >
> > > Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank

with
> > > 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so

cassette
> > > in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range

rear
> > > deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a

31.6mm
> > > seat tube.
> > >
> > > Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to

go
> > > with the new 10-speed setup?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >

> > 1. It's "gruppo"
> > 2. It's "triple"
> > 3. It's "derailleur"
> > 4. It's available just about everywhere for now.

>
> Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!
>
> 1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
> English-speaking environs, it's "group".
>
> 2. Yep.
>
> 3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
> "Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
> explains what it does.



Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown
word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a
bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English
dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not
find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a
made up word.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]




>
> 4. Yep, again.
>
> --
> Ted Bennett
> Portland, OR


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Old 03-01-2005, 01:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
chekmate13
 
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Re: Shimano Ultegra 9-speed Still Available New?


Steve Sr. wrote:
> Bike Folks,
>
> I am working on putting together a semi-custom road bike and looking
> for available groupo components. I don't really see the need for
> 10-speed and I understand that the rear triangle spacing is the same
> for both 9 and 10-speed. I am wondering if Shimano Ultegra
> (preferably) or Dura-ace is still available in 9-speed. I also have
> another bike which is 9-speed so I would have a souce of redundant
> spare parts.
>
> Now here comes the custom part. I am looking for a tripple crank with
> 170mm crank arms. I am also wanting a wide range 12-27 or so cassette
> in back. I don't know if this will require a special wide-range rear
> deraileur or not. Also the front deraileur has to accommodate a

31.6mm
> seat tube.
>
> Am I or my local LBS going to find this groupo or will I have to go
> with the new 10-speed setup?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve


Steve,

I just rebuilt my bike a couple days ago with Shimano Ultegra 9 speed.
I didn't use a triple but changed all other items same as you, 12-27
cassette. Try pricepoint.com. I ordered originally from Performance
in December but was backordered still in February, went to Pricepoint,
about the same prices and shipped in one day, arrived 2 days later.

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