Saddle questions - Page 3

03-10-2005, 05:53 AM

: The cautions about saddles being a matter of personal choice are
: correct, as are the cautions about mail order. But, as I said earlier,
: Wallingford has a great return policy that makes it worth considering
: if you are thinking about a Brooks saddle. This is from the Wallingford
: web site's warranty page:
:
: 6 Month UNCONDITIONAL SATISFACTION GUARANTEE - new BROOKS saddles.
: Return your new saddle at any time within six-months of the ship date
: for a full refund of the price of the saddle. Shipping will not be
: refunded unless there is a manufacturing defect issue that would make
: the return a factory warranty issue.
:
: Around here, a six month test would just about take you through an
: entire season of prime-time cycling. --Roy Zipris

What you write is true, BUT--I ordered a Brooks saddle from them and tried
it out and returned it. It was killing me! I thought it was just the wrong
model, so I got another one, the B-17, and still have it. There is an
ongoing battle, though as to who will give up first--me or the saddle. So
far, the saddle's winning. Brooks saddles are NOT for everyone or
Wallingford wouldn't have their "buy it used" listing.

Pat in TX
:

03-10-2005, 08:47 AM

Ken Marcet wrote:
> Does an one know of a economically priced saddle that will let me
ride more
> than a couple of miles without the need for padded cycling pants? Or
is this
> just a dream of mine? I was browsing nashbar and they have some in
the $30
> to $40 range that look as though they have a bit more padding than a
"stock"
> read "cheap" seat.
>
> Ken

FWIW, I usually have a bit of discomfort when I get back in the saddle
after a long stretch without riding. My mountain bike has a fairly
firm seat so I've been tempted in the past to upgrade the saddle. I
usually find, however, that I toughen up a bit after the first week or
so of regular riding.

If it's painful, however, there's no sense in keeping the same saddle.
Of course, they're very personal purchases and comfort means something
different to everyone. And I guess if a new saddle will encourage you
to spend more time on the bike, then it's a worthwhile investment.

-Bill H.

03-10-2005, 06:24 PM

"Zoot Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:04:03 GMT,
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> maxo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >Mike Kruger wrote:
> >
> >> The other used Brooks I've bought have been in the
> >> $30 range. (one at Urban Bikes in Chicago, just to name
one
> >> good place for stuff like this.)
> >
> >Are they still around? I used to LOVE that place. They only
had a pair of
> >vintage and frighteningly hard Ideale saddles when I was
there last.
> >[Shivers]
>
> I've always preferred Ideale to Brooks. The arched top fit's
my
> anatomy better than the flat assed British saddles.
> --
Urban Bikes is still there. The odd thing is that Urban Bikes
had a couple of Ideale leather saddles in stock when I bought
the Brooks there. I wonder if they are the same ones you saw!
I went with Brooks because I was familiar with the brand name
and (in my limited knowledge) I had never heard of Ideale.

03-11-2005, 03:33 AM

Pat wrote:
> What you write is true, BUT--I ordered a Brooks saddle from them and
tried
> it out and returned it. It was killing me! I thought it was just the
wrong
> model, so I got another one, the B-17, and still have it. There is an
> ongoing battle, though as to who will give up first--me or the
saddle. So
> far, the saddle's winning. Brooks saddles are NOT for everyone or
> Wallingford wouldn't have their "buy it used" listing.

This pretty much mirrors my experience. I first tried a Brooks
Professional for 3 months and 1,000 miles. It was the most horribly
uncomfortable saddle I've ever used, despite trying every possible
adjustment. I traded that for a B17, which was a bit better, making it
only the second most uncomfortable saddle I've had.

I traded the B17 to my sister, she had a new bike with a Selle Italia
"Trimatic" saddle. She loved the B17, I rode the Trimatic on a 250 mile
brevet without discomfort about a month after I put it on.

03-11-2005, 06:41 AM

Tom Sherman wrote:
> Ken Marcet wrote:
>
> > Does an one know of a economically priced saddle that will let me
ride more
> > than a couple of miles without the need for padded cycling pants?
Or is this
> > just a dream of mine? I was browsing nashbar and they have some in
the $30
> > to $40 range that look as though they have a bit more padding than
a "stock"
> > read "cheap" seat.
>
> I prefer sling-mesh seats with a foam pad. You could inquire at
> Lightning Cycle Dynamics since they make such a seat, but I expect
their
> seat is more in the $300-400 range.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth

THE SEAT COSTS $400?????????????????????????????? The Seat??? I paid
40 dollars for my new seat and when I mentioned I bought a seat someone
promptly corrected me as being a "saddle" not a seat.
I think when spring arrives and I start riding more, I have alot to
learn about this sport of champions.
All Good Things,
Maggie

03-11-2005, 07:18 AM

11 Mar 2005 07:41:38 -0800,
<1110555698.176415.252450@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
"Maggie" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I prefer sling-mesh seats with a foam pad. You could inquire at
>> Lightning Cycle Dynamics since they make such a seat, but I expect their
>> seat is more in the $300-400 range.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Sherman - Earth
>
>
>THE SEAT COSTS $400?????????????????????????????? The Seat??? I paid
>40 dollars for my new seat and when I mentioned I bought a seat someone
>promptly corrected me as being a "saddle" not a seat.
>I think when spring arrives and I start riding more, I have alot to
>learn about this sport of champions.

Mr earthman rides bent.
Rememember, babies, toilets and recumbents have seats.
Bicycles have saddles.
--
zk

03-11-2005, 09:25 AM

Roy Zipris <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Someone once described the feeling of a Brooks B-17 as riding while
> sitting in a hammock. Got it pretty right, in my experience. You can't
> go wrong with Wallingford, which sells them with a 6-month
> guarantee/return policy.
>
> But, as you will no doubt hear, saddles are extremely personal things,
> and no one "size" fits all. And padding is not necessarily a good
> thing on long rides. --Roy Zipris

I enjoy my Brooks a lot. However, I would not ride on it without my padded
shorts.

03-11-2005, 11:29 AM

Roger Zoul wrote:

> I enjoy my Brooks a lot. However, I would not ride on it without my
> padded shorts.

That's what I thought about mine, until I tried riding it without padded
shorts, and still found it comfortable, at least for shorter distances
( < 20km). I think the main benefit of the "padding" is actually moisture
absorption.

Mind you, for the first week or so when I was breaking in the Brooks, I
carried a gel seatcover with me for when it got too uncomfortable. I'm
very low on "natural padding"...

--
Benjamin Lewis

I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

03-11-2005, 11:44 AM

Benjamin Lewis <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].ca> wrote:
> Roger Zoul wrote:
>
>> I enjoy my Brooks a lot. However, I would not ride on it without my
>> padded shorts.
>
> That's what I thought about mine, until I tried riding it without
> padded shorts, and still found it comfortable, at least for shorter
> distances ( < 20km). I think the main benefit of the "padding" is
> actually moisture absorption.
>
> Mind you, for the first week or so when I was breaking in the Brooks,
> I carried a gel seatcover with me for when it got too uncomfortable.
> I'm very low on "natural padding"...

Yeah, my butt hurt a lot at first, but after the first real ride on mine
(like 50 miles) my butt transfered enough heat into the saddle to cause it
to give. Then I saw these two dents on either side of center. That was
curious.

03-11-2005, 11:55 AM

Roger Zoul wrote:

> Benjamin Lewis <bclewis@cs.sfu.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Mind you, for the first week or so when I was breaking in the Brooks,
>> I carried a gel seatcover with me for when it got too uncomfortable.
>> I'm very low on "natural padding"...
>
> Yeah, my butt hurt a lot at first, but after the first real ride on mine
> (like 50 miles) my butt transfered enough heat into the saddle to cause
> it to give. Then I saw these two dents on either side of center. That
> was curious.

You now have an accurate impression of your ischial tuberosities

--
Benjamin Lewis

I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover