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12-28-2006, 03:40 AM

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:47:15 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
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>Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> Ewoud Dronkert <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].invalid> wrote:
>>> You know, Tim is one of us now:
>>> http://www.fietsenbeleving.nl/rondevantimkrabbe/foto's2006/rimg0288.html
>>
>> Which one?
>> Drunk? Fattie? Old? A poser? Cat 4? a Dumbass?
>
>All of the above. Well, certainly not a dumbass. Although,
>http://www.fietsenbeleving.nl/rondevantimkrabbe/foto's2006/rimg0387.html

Man, you've shattered my illusions. I though the Euro-bikers were
always cooler than us (U.S. us).
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12-28-2006, 06:14 AM

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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>>All of the above. Well, certainly not a dumbass. Although,
>>http://www.fietsenbeleving.nl/rondevantimkrabbe/foto's2006/rimg0387.html
>
> Man, you've shattered my illusions. I though the Euro-bikers were
> always cooler than us (U.S. us).

Eurobiker? It looks like Miguel DuHamel to me.

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12-29-2006, 12:39 PM

In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> In article <4592c78c$0$328$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].invalid> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > Ewoud Dronkert <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].invalid> wrote:
> > >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> > >> ng.html
> > >
> > > Ewoud: given the name of that first link, and that you posted it, I was
> > > absolutely sure the link was going to lead to something about Tim Krabbé.
> >
> > Ha, that's funny but it was not my intention.
> >
> > You know, Tim is one of us now:
> > http://www.fietsenbeleving.nl/rondevantimkrabbe/foto's2006/rimg0288.html
>
> Which one?
>
> Drunk? Fattie? Old? A poser? Cat 4? a Dumbass?
>
> Aw Yeah!
>
> http://www.fietsenbeleving.nl/rondevantimkrabbe/foto's2006/rimg0290.html
>
> His jersey's logo is "Cycles Goff."
>
> That's not a real shop, is it?

He knows enough to wear black tights. There oughta be a law.

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12-29-2006, 05:00 PM

Den 24.12.2006 kl. 15:26 skrev [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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>
> Anyone have a ballpark figure idea of how much it costs to build a
> simple velodrome?
>

A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
one year.

Ivar of Denmark

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12-30-2006, 09:00 AM

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:00:19 +0100, "Ivar Hesselager"
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>A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
>million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
>For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
>country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
>one year.

Well, they probably wanted to make sure that they had enough Big Mac's
reinforcing the roof that it wouldn't fall down again.

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01-04-2007, 02:03 AM

Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> Den 24.12.2006 kl. 15:26 skrev [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
> >
> > Anyone have a ballpark figure idea of how much it costs to build a
> > simple velodrome?
> >
>
>
> A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
> million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
> For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
> country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
> one year.

Only 565 of them? Bricklayers in Denmark must cost a lot more than
bricklayers in China.

Lessee, I figure I'm currently reasonably well off middle class at a
lazy job making $750 US a month. Middle class starts around $125 US a
month. A bricklayer should probably be making around $50 a month, so
figure $550 a year because there will almost certainly be time that he
or she doesn't work (such as Spring Festival) plus graft and excuses
for a skimmed paycheck like being ten minutes late to work.

$550 a year means two bricklayers for $1100, twenty for 11,000, two
hundred for 110,000, two thousand for 1,100,000. twenty thousand for
11,000,000, or sixty thousand for 33,000,000.

I might be guessing a bit high on how much a bricklayer makes but I
figure if you have 35 million US you could easily employ 63,600 Chinese
bricklayers for one year.

What exactly you would _do_ with 63,600 Chinese bricklayers for one
year is beyond me.

(and don't any of you wise asses answer "build a velodrome" because if
you had that many bricklayers it would take substantially less than one
year to build...)

Anyways, cool as I think it would be to have some amazing world class
facility in one of my favorite cities in the world, I should hope that
my friend (while he does have quite a bit of clout) isn't thinking that
high because dreams that are dreamt that far beyond the pale of reality
tend to fall flat and not get accomplished (especially when those
dreams are being dreamt with other people's money).

When next I see him I'll pass on the links I've already gotten and see
where things go from there. If you'd told me this time last year that
Hainan was going to have a stage race I wouldn't have believed you, and
I definitely wouldn't have believed that I'd not merely get to see it
but get to work at it so I'm willing to stretch the limits of
reasonable thought when someone with authority says they're thinking
Haikou really needs a velodrome.

-M

01-04-2007, 02:16 AM

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> $550 a year means two bricklayers for $1100, twenty for 11,000, two
> hundred for 110,000, two thousand for 1,100,000. twenty thousand for
> 11,000,000, or sixty thousand for 33,000,000.
>
> I might be guessing a bit high on how much a bricklayer makes but I
> figure if you have 35 million US you could easily employ 63,600 Chinese
> bricklayers for one year.
>
> What exactly you would _do_ with 63,600 Chinese bricklayers for one
> year is beyond me.
>
> (and don't any of you wise asses answer "build a velodrome" because if
> you had that many bricklayers it would take substantially less than one
> year to build...)

Build the great wall of america on the US-Mexico border ?

01-04-2007, 11:38 PM

In article
<1167905030.233531.170130@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups .com>
,
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<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> > Den 24.12.2006 kl. 15:26 skrev [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> > <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
> >
> > >
> > > Anyone have a ballpark figure idea of how much it costs to build a
> > > simple velodrome?
> > >
> >
> >
> > A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
> > million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
> > For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
> > country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
> > one year.
>
> Only 565 of them? Bricklayers in Denmark must cost a lot more than
> bricklayers in China.
>
> Lessee, I figure I'm currently reasonably well off middle class at a
> lazy job making $750 US a month. Middle class starts around $125 US a
> month. A bricklayer should probably be making around $50 a month, so
> figure $550 a year because there will almost certainly be time that he
> or she doesn't work (such as Spring Festival) plus graft and excuses
> for a skimmed paycheck like being ten minutes late to work.
>
> $550 a year means two bricklayers for $1100, twenty for 11,000, two
> hundred for 110,000, two thousand for 1,100,000. twenty thousand for
> 11,000,000, or sixty thousand for 33,000,000.
>
> I might be guessing a bit high on how much a bricklayer makes but I
> figure if you have 35 million US you could easily employ 63,600 Chinese
> bricklayers for one year.
>
> What exactly you would _do_ with 63,600 Chinese bricklayers for one
> year is beyond me.
>
> (and don't any of you wise asses answer "build a velodrome" because if
> you had that many bricklayers it would take substantially less than one
> year to build...)
>
> Anyways, cool as I think it would be to have some amazing world class
> facility in one of my favorite cities in the world, I should hope that
> my friend (while he does have quite a bit of clout) isn't thinking that
> high because dreams that are dreamt that far beyond the pale of reality
> tend to fall flat and not get accomplished (especially when those
> dreams are being dreamt with other people's money).
>
> When next I see him I'll pass on the links I've already gotten and see
> where things go from there. If you'd told me this time last year that
> Hainan was going to have a stage race I wouldn't have believed you, and
> I definitely wouldn't have believed that I'd not merely get to see it
> but get to work at it so I'm willing to stretch the limits of
> reasonable thought when someone with authority says they're thinking
> Haikou really needs a velodrome.

You have been there a while. I worked a contract in
Hong Kong for a couple months. The locals were EE's, I
was software. I would ask the engineers for something
and it happened. Somehow I feel that that velodrome
will happen.

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Michael Press

01-05-2007, 12:53 AM

Holy ****, did none of you guys stop to think what the ride quality of a
brick velodrome would be like. Carpenters, that's what you need. Not
bricklayres.
Sheesh.

01-05-2007, 01:20 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].nz>,
Stu Fleming <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].nz> wrote:

> Holy ****, did none of you guys stop to think what the ride quality of a
> brick velodrome would be like. Carpenters, that's what you need. Not
> bricklayres.
> Sheesh.

Sure I did. What of it?

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Michael Press