Velodrome - Page 5

01-05-2007, 08:07 AM

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
> Ivar Hesselager wrote:
>> Den 24.12.2006 kl. 15:26 skrev [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>>
>>> Anyone have a ballpark figure idea of how much it costs to build a
>>> simple velodrome?
>>>
>>
>> A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
>> million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
>> For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
>> country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
>> one year.
>
> Only 565 of them? Bricklayers in Denmark must cost a lot more than
> bricklayers in China.
>
> Lessee, I figure I'm currently reasonably well off middle class at a
> lazy job making $750 US a month. Middle class starts around $125 US a
> month. A bricklayer should probably be making around $50 a month, so
> figure $550 a year because there will almost certainly be time that he
> or she doesn't work (such as Spring Festival) plus graft and excuses
> for a skimmed paycheck like being ten minutes late to work.
>
> $550 a year means two bricklayers for $1100, twenty for 11,000, two
> hundred for 110,000, two thousand for 1,100,000. twenty thousand for
> 11,000,000, or sixty thousand for 33,000,000.
>
> I might be guessing a bit high on how much a bricklayer makes but I
> figure if you have 35 million US you could easily employ 63,600 Chinese
> bricklayers for one year.
>
> What exactly you would _do_ with 63,600 Chinese bricklayers for one
> year is beyond me.
>
> (and don't any of you wise asses answer "build a velodrome" because if
> you had that many bricklayers it would take substantially less than one
> year to build...)
>
> Anyways, cool as I think it would be to have some amazing world class
> facility in one of my favorite cities in the world, I should hope that
> my friend (while he does have quite a bit of clout) isn't thinking that
> high because dreams that are dreamt that far beyond the pale of reality
> tend to fall flat and not get accomplished (especially when those
> dreams are being dreamt with other people's money).
>
> When next I see him I'll pass on the links I've already gotten and see
> where things go from there. If you'd told me this time last year that
> Hainan was going to have a stage race I wouldn't have believed you, and
> I definitely wouldn't have believed that I'd not merely get to see it
> but get to work at it so I'm willing to stretch the limits of
> reasonable thought when someone with authority says they're thinking
> Haikou really needs a velodrome.
>
> -M
>
Let's make it simple.
You build it (In China) and nobody will come.
I don't care where you live, I don't do Communist countries.
Funny how we are kissing China's butt, yet ignoring Cuba.
Of course you could have it built there and sent here with a huge "Made
in China" sticker like everything else.
Bill Baka

01-07-2007, 10:51 PM

Michael Press wrote:
> In article
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> "[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Ivar Hesselager wrote:
> > > Den 24.12.2006 kl. 15:26 skrev [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> > > <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have a ballpark figure idea of how much it costs to build a
> > > > simple velodrome?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A new velodrome was built in Copenhagen Danmark in 2003 at the cost of 208
> > > million Danish kroner, equaling 35 mill dollars.
> > > For that much money you could buy 3,500,000 McDonald hamburgers in this
> > > country, or - if you are not that hungy - pay 565 bricklayers to work for
> > > one year.
> >
> > Only 565 of them? Bricklayers in Denmark must cost a lot more than
> > bricklayers in China.

> > I might be guessing a bit high on how much a bricklayer makes but I
> > figure if you have 35 million US you could easily employ 63,600 Chinese
> > bricklayers for one year.

> > When next I see him I'll pass on the links I've already gotten and see
> > where things go from there. If you'd told me this time last year that
> > Hainan was going to have a stage race I wouldn't have believed you, and
> > I definitely wouldn't have believed that I'd not merely get to see it
> > but get to work at it so I'm willing to stretch the limits of
> > reasonable thought when someone with authority says they're thinking
> > Haikou really needs a velodrome.
>
> You have been there a while. I worked a contract in
> Hong Kong for a couple months. The locals were EE's, I
> was software. I would ask the engineers for something
> and it happened. Somehow I feel that that velodrome
> will happen.

It was only _supposed_ to be ten months.

I'm well into the fifth year and I've learned two important things:
1. I can't count
2. I don't want to go to graduate school in museum studies -or- library
science
3. I'm surprisingly good at Chinese
4. The prediction I made when I was 16 that I'd do something fun for a
while and then end up working as a computer programmer is currently
coming true (I'm coding the website for a travel company)

-M

01-07-2007, 11:17 PM

Bill Baka wrote:

> Let's make it simple.
> You build it (In China) and nobody will come.
> I don't care where you live, I don't do Communist countries.
> Funny how we are kissing China's butt, yet ignoring Cuba.
> Of course you could have it built there and sent here with a huge "Made
> in China" sticker like everything else.

What ever gave you the impression that China was Communist?

I mean, just because the ruling party is the Communists doesn't
actually mean the government or the political system or economy or the
day to day of well _anything_ is Communist.

Besides which I'm not building it (and neither are the 63,600
bricklayers of the earlier part of this thread), I'm helping the person
who wants to convince the appropriate people that it ought to be built
get a better idea of how much money he ought to ask for.

-M