My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me - Page 7 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

01-03-2007, 12:41 AM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>> Nonsense, I anglicize Arabic words as I do all foreign words. Let the
>> rest of the world learn to speak and write English since it is such a
>> superior language and is the language of the world's only remaining super
>> power.
>
> Hmmm, wouldn't that be Mandarin rather than English, then?
>
> Greg

China, like India, has so many internal problems that it will never be a
great power. It is a flash in the pan and will no doubt soon have an
earthquake or flood that will kill millions. That is what the Chinese and
the Indians have always done best - die by the millions!

By the way, it was mainly the Chinese written script which kept them so
ignorant and backward for so long. It took a lifetime to learn how to read
and write it. Only an elite could ever be bothered with such a stupid
written language. But I think the spoken language is just as stupid - as is
their music. Thank God I was not born a Chinaman!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

01-04-2007, 05:55 PM

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"* * Chas" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:bjAlh.5344$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> >
> <snip>
> > > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do
> it
> > > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> > >
> > >
> > Ed,
> > Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> > Thanks,
> > Kerry
> >
>
> Kerry,
>
> Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28 different
> NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
>
> Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence

Is this the reference you are making?
<http://www.thesisters.org/>

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Michael Press

01-05-2007, 11:53 AM

"Michael Press" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> In article
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> "* * Chas" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:bjAlh.5344$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> > >
> > <snip>
> > > > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery,
then do
> > it
> > > > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows -
Minnesota
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ed,
> > > Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kerry
> > >
> >
> > Kerry,
> >
> > Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28
different
> > NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
> >
> > Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
>
> Is this the reference you are making?
> <http://www.thesisters.org/>
>
> --
> Michael Press

YES! Ha, Ha, Ha....... FDLMAO

I live in the Bay Area and the "gals" are at least entertaining.

Chas. In memory of Nun of the Above

01-17-2007, 12:56 PM

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>
> Gremlins. You've got gremlins on your ****.
>
> Something about bents attracts them. Good luck.

I seriously wonder. Sometimes I wonder if 'bents aren't made as
carefully...even though, with such low sales volume, each one is
practically custom-built!

I swear, I still have the fifteen year-old Diamondback cheapie $200 MTB
I bought, the one where I had two major accidents and a few minor ones
(major ones including flying over my handlebars and a destroyed front
wheel) and the **** rides fine. ****ing $3,500 SMGTe hits a ****ing
car (that's what'd had happened, hidden driveway on an uphill!) and the
car is fine but the big chainring is bent!

Just a little, but enough to impair operations. Continued cycling is
what caused the chain itself to break and a thingamajig spring in the
back to go boing! and hors de combat.

01-17-2007, 01:01 PM

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> I don't care what you ride . If you don't take care of it .they all go to
> Sh#t .Learn to fix it take better care of it .A buddies of mine use to
> complain about his Mt bike but never worked on it to keep it in shape it
> really doesn't take that much.Once he started to clean it and adjust thing
> as they were being use he had better luck when he went out riding . He could
> go for a ride and things didn't break or come out of adj.
> I think this is what the he was looking for .
> Don't wait till it breaks . Ride it and pay a little attion to what's going
> on and you can tell when thing are coming loose or need adjusted.Really??
> I own 3 bikes and keep them in shape the last thing they do is let be down
> on a ride unless I crash and bend some thing .
> Don't get me wrong if you bought a cheep bike??? You get what you pay for
> !!!
> A cheap bike wont get you the mileage of a good bike?!?!
> MY 2 CENTS>
>
> --
> J/O TrailBlazer At Large!!

Nah, like I said in my other post, my $200 cheapie MTB by Diamondback
is 15 yrs. old and rides fine still, but this $3,500 SWB got a bent
chainring from a simple bump with a car! The car's paint isn't even
scratched, but the paint on the chainring has come off!

It's a TruVativ chainring, what Hostel Shoppe sells for their "Ultimate
SMGTe"...I can't believe a little tap has thrown a few teeth crooked!
I've taken harder hits from cars on my own body without drawing blood
(used to be an NYC messenger for all of half a summer), but a simple
bump leaves the car's finish perfectly fine while my chainring is bent.
Sheesh!

01-17-2007, 10:12 PM

On 01/17/2007 21:56:50 "Prisoner at War" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:

>> Gremlins. You've got gremlins on your ****.

>> Something about bents attracts them. Good luck.

> I seriously wonder. Sometimes I wonder if 'bents aren't made as
> carefully...even though, with such low sales volume, each one is
> practically custom-built!

> I swear, I still have the fifteen year-old Diamondback cheapie $200 MTB I
> bought, the one where I had two major accidents and a few minor ones
> (major ones including flying over my handlebars and a destroyed front
> wheel) and the **** rides fine. ****ing $3,500 SMGTe hits a ****ing car
> (that's what'd had happened, hidden driveway on an uphill!) and the car is
> fine but the big chainring is bent!

> Just a little, but enough to impair operations. Continued cycling is what
> caused the chain itself to break and a thingamajig spring in the back to
> go boing! and hors de combat.

Bents are subject to the same rules as other cycles, they need to be assembled correctly, often the assembly can be more complex plus they
often require more maitainance.

--

Buck

Give a little person a little power and create a big problem.

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01-19-2007, 11:15 AM

Prisoner at War wrote:
>
> I seriously wonder. Sometimes I wonder if 'bents aren't made as
> carefully...even though, with such low sales volume, each one is
> practically custom-built!

As you've said yourself, there are no problems with the frame. The
chainwheel is not HP Velotechnik specific, or even recumbent
specific: it's a standard chainwheel bought off the same shelves
everyone else has access to, so the extent to which it's a problem
because it's a recumbent is it's in a slightly more vulnerable spot
if you crsh into things. Moral #1, try not to crash into things,
moral #2, though that's a downside on the 'bent you're far less
likely to waste your forks and front wheel crashing into things
than you are on a wedgie... you choose, you lose.

> Just a little, but enough to impair operations. Continued cycling is
> what caused the chain itself to break

Again, same chains as on wedgies. 2.4 chains, admittedly, but that
doesn't cause any immediate problems of itself and because the
chain is much better protected from goop there's less cleaning and
lubing to do. But it still needs to be done, or just like any
chain on any bike it might well break. Chains that aren't looked
after won't necessarily go, but they might. OTOH, chains that are
looked after have a vanishingly small failure rate IME, and that's
true on a 'bent or an upright.

Your complaint about all the different screw to hold things on...
those things are, rack and seat excpeted, standard items from the
standard any-bike parts available. It's silly to complain about
differences being down to the bike being recumbent, they apply to
anything.

Which takes us back to Gremlins.

Pete.
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01-19-2007, 11:18 AM

Prisoner at War wrote:

> It's a TruVativ chainring, what Hostel Shoppe sells for their "Ultimate
> SMGTe"

So you've specifically paid for minimum weight. That doesn't make
things stronger! your $200 MTB will be a never mind the weight and
make it rugged affair. If you want the same degree of robustness
you need to specify that, *not* minimum weight.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
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01-19-2007, 11:55 AM

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:15:12 +0000, Peter Clinch
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

> The
>chainwheel is not HP Velotechnik specific, or even recumbent
>specific: it's a standard chainwheel bought off the same shelves
>everyone else has access to, so the extent to which it's a problem
>because it's a recumbent is it's in a slightly more vulnerable spot
>if you crsh into things.

It is a bit easier to create chain slack on many recumbents and if you
combine that with hard stop-start in your spin, you can do damage.
I've seen a few MTBs that have had the same thing happen. You have to
work harder to do it on a well-adjusted, indexed diamond frame, and
their simpler drive trains usually bend or blow out the rear
derailleur as the point of failure when it does happen. Recumbents
have a better chance of taking that force out on the chain ring.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

01-19-2007, 12:33 PM

Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> It is a bit easier to create chain slack on many recumbents and if you
> combine that with hard stop-start in your spin, you can do damage.

Maybe... though in this case he admits he crashed into something!

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
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