frame building schools ?

11-04-2003, 07:25 AM

ware are some good frame building schools ?
i have found UBI , but iv ben unable to locate any others

thanks jason

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11-04-2003, 09:58 AM

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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Jason6665666) wrote:

> ware are some good frame building schools ?
> i have found UBI , but iv ben unable to locate any others

I think most small frame-builders still get started
apprenticeship-style: get a job sweeping the floors at Klein, IF, Rocky
Mountain, or the nearest frame shop that does the kind of work you want
to do (lugs, tigs, Al, Ti, carbon, etc.) on the kind of bike you want to
build. Then learn a thing or two.

Framebuilding isn't rocket science. At its simplest, it involves
purchasing tubes, some skilled welding, and knowledge of bike geometry
principles. You may want to learn painting, too, if you choose not to
work in Ti or carbon fibre.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

11-04-2003, 09:29 PM

Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<rcousine-> Framebuilding isn't rocket science. At its simplest, it involves
> purchasing tubes, some skilled welding, and knowledge of bike geometry
> principles. You may want to learn painting, too, if you choose not to
> work in Ti or carbon fibre.

Ryan, a guy with the name of Jason is not going to get very far in the
high end frame building world. What do you think Vanni Galdiolo at
the Fondriest
plant or ol Luca Minesso over at the Bianchi factory would think of
him?

He may be ok with some old heavy gauge stuff like 6000 series AL, but
keep him away from the nice stuff like Dedacciai U2 tubes. He's never
going to build a 1.05 kg frame.

Anyway, you can't be a good frame builder and a good painter these
days, you're one or the other, guess how much a Termomeccanica G.I.
paint booth will set you back?

Anyway, today we're looking at Carb frames running at 950 grams or
less. Time to put away the torch! Leave the metal age for the Lamers
and FREDS.

11-05-2003, 05:39 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Fabrizio Mazzoleni) wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<rcousine->
> Framebuilding isn't rocket science. At its simplest, it involves
> > purchasing tubes, some skilled welding, and knowledge of bike geometry
> > principles. You may want to learn painting, too, if you choose not to
> > work in Ti or carbon fibre.
>
> Ryan, a guy with the name of Jason is not going to get very far in the
> high end frame building world. What do you think Vanni Galdiolo at
> the Fondriest
> plant or ol Luca Minesso over at the Bianchi factory would think of
> him?

Fabrizio! You're back! We were beginning to worry that you'd found
something better to do with your life. I'm glad to see that's not the
case.

Your biggest fan,
--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

11-05-2003, 08:57 PM

Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<rcousine-> Fabrizio! You're back! We were beginning to worry that you'd found
> something better to do with your life. I'm glad to see that's not the
> case.

No, I don't have any internet connection at home now. I post on my
supper break at work. I got a 5pm to 3am shift so I can train in the
daylight all winter and not have to be lame like Zoot and ride in the
dark.

I'm trying to reduce all expenses, I want to buy something like the
DeRosa King with Campy Bora wheels for next season.