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11-05-2003, 07:21 PM

Hi,

Well, my klein quantum and I got in the all too common auto-bicycle fight,
and of course we lost. So now I am looking for a new ride. I'm 6'7 and
265, and the aluminum was fine except for the road noise. I lust after
carbon fiber but wondered if oclv 120 will hold up under my light weight...
Should I stick with and aluminum Klein or Trek 2300 still, or is there
something else out there that would work. I'm probably working with
$2,000 - $2,500 so not too spendy...

Thanks for any advice.

Brian Nelson

"What happened? Am I OK? Is my bike OK? What a day! What happened?, Am I
ok..."

11-05-2003, 11:33 PM

Brian: We've sold a number of OCLVs (TREK carbon bikes) to people as
"sturdy" as yourself, without trouble... but your height could be an issue,
as the largest size is 62cm, and that's measured from the center of the
bottom bracket all the way to the top of the seat collar (which extends a
bit above the top tube).

The main issue will be with tire choice; 23c (the normal stock size) would
be a very bad idea, and even 25c might not be ideal on the rear. But the
frame shouldn't be a problem.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"Brian Nelson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Well, my klein quantum and I got in the all too common auto-bicycle fight,
> and of course we lost. So now I am looking for a new ride. I'm 6'7 and
> 265, and the aluminum was fine except for the road noise. I lust after
> carbon fiber but wondered if oclv 120 will hold up under my light
weight...
> Should I stick with and aluminum Klein or Trek 2300 still, or is there
> something else out there that would work. I'm probably working with
> $2,000 - $2,500 so not too spendy...
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Brian Nelson
>
> "What happened? Am I OK? Is my bike OK? What a day! What happened?, Am I
> ok..."
>
>

11-06-2003, 03:30 AM

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:04 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>The main issue will be with tire choice; 23c (the normal stock size) would
>be a very bad idea, and even 25c might not be ideal on the rear. But the
>frame shouldn't be a problem.

Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the chainstay
junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran 25mm tires
on it.

Barry

11-06-2003, 11:56 AM

B A R R Y B U R wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:04 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >The main issue will be with tire choice; 23c (the normal stock size)
> >would be a very bad idea, and even 25c might not be ideal on the rear.
> >But the frame shouldn't be a problem.
> Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the
> chainstay junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran
> 25mm tires on it.
> Barry

Calfee makes a Luna Pro in size 66 - 88cm standover height. $1300 for
the frame without fork. You could probably salvage most of your Klein
parts, buy a few new components and a fork to get a full bike well under
$2500. Good guy to deal with, very popular frames around here, you'd
have to ask him about the tire sizes though.

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11-06-2003, 08:30 PM

> Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the chainstay
> junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran 25mm tires
> on it.

Depends upon the tire brand. Unfortunately, there are no standards for how
tire width is measured, so one company's 23c can actually be larger than
someone else's 25. For what it's worth, I've run 25c Contis on mine with no
problem.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:33:04 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
> >The main issue will be with tire choice; 23c (the normal stock size)
would
> >be a very bad idea, and even 25c might not be ideal on the rear. But the
> >frame shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the chainstay
> junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran 25mm tires
> on it.
>
> Barry

11-07-2003, 03:23 AM

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:30:54 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the chainstay
>> junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran 25mm tires
>> on it.
>
>Depends upon the tire brand. Unfortunately, there are no standards for how
>tire width is measured, so one company's 23c can actually be larger than
>someone else's 25. For what it's worth, I've run 25c Contis on mine with no
>problem.
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Mike,
Mine were Conti GP3000's. <G> Either I'm flexing the frame
more than you are, or my frame has more material in that area.

Barry

11-07-2003, 04:04 PM

> Mine were Conti GP3000's. <G> Either I'm flexing the frame
> more than you are, or my frame has more material in that area.

You might be flexing the frame more, but I'm not exactly small (6' and
173lbs... trying *really* hard to keep it around that weight during the
winter... must resist that cookie... must resist...)

I was running GP 4-Seasons, but I've installed quite a few 25c GP3000s on
others for customers. Are you running the stock wheels?

--Mike--
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 04:30:54 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> Except that a 25mm rear tire will occasionally contact the chainstay
> >> junction. My 58cm 5200 showed contact evidence when I ran 25mm tires
> >> on it.
> >
> >Depends upon the tire brand. Unfortunately, there are no standards for
how
> >tire width is measured, so one company's 23c can actually be larger than
> >someone else's 25. For what it's worth, I've run 25c Contis on mine with
no
> >problem.
> >
> >--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> Mike,
> Mine were Conti GP3000's. <G> Either I'm flexing the frame
> more than you are, or my frame has more material in that area.
>
> Barry

11-07-2003, 04:32 PM

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:04:46 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Are you running the stock wheels?
>
>--Mike--
>Chain Reaction Bicycles

Open Pros laced to Ultegra, 36 spoke rear, 32 spoke front, 3 cross
Jobst style.

Barry

11-10-2003, 03:33 PM

Barry: Have you checked the tightness of the rear quick release? Sometimes
they can float around a bit. I'm surprised that you're having trouble with
a 25c on that bike...

--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
in message news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:04:46 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
> Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Are you running the stock wheels?
> >
> >--Mike--
> >Chain Reaction Bicycles
>
> Open Pros laced to Ultegra, 36 spoke rear, 32 spoke front, 3 cross
> Jobst style.
>
> Barry
>

11-11-2003, 01:50 PM

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:33:33 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Barry: Have you checked the tightness of the rear quick release? Sometimes
>they can float around a bit. I'm surprised that you're having trouble with
>a 25c on that bike...
>

Yes, but a good suggestion.

Trek was also surprised. I work at a Trek dealer, so showing it to
our rep wasn't hard. I'm not that huge either, 6'1", 225-230.

I'm back to riding 23c's, so it dosen't really matter.

Barry