Scattante 2003 CFR Carbon - Opinions??

01-01-2004, 10:53 PM

Hey All,

I'm looking to finally replace my 16 year old road bike with a
Scattante 2003 CFR Carbon w/ triple Ultegra from Supergo. Anyone have
any first-hand experience with these bikes?

For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon
frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo, and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've had
good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike brand
snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and weigh
approx 145lbs.

Thanks for any helpful input!
-Zuke

01-02-2004, 08:58 AM

> For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon
> frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo, and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've had
> good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike brand
> snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and weigh
> approx 145lbs.

Best bet would be to ride one and see how well you can make it fit, not to
mention how it handles. The pricing is only $400 less than a new TREK
full-carbon bike that will make its debut around the end of January, with
the same frame as the 5200.

There's no difficulty building a cheap carbon bike; the trick is to build
one that handles well and is very durable.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"Zuke" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Hey All,
>
> I'm looking to finally replace my 16 year old road bike with a
> Scattante 2003 CFR Carbon w/ triple Ultegra from Supergo. Anyone have
> any first-hand experience with these bikes?
>
> For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon
> frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo, and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've had
> good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike brand
> snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and weigh
> approx 145lbs.
>
> Thanks for any helpful input!
> -Zuke
>

01-02-2004, 11:26 AM

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> > For $1,599, they look like an incredible deal for a full carbon
> > frame/fork, full Ultegra groupo, and Shimano R540 Wheelset. I've
had
> > good experiences buying from Supergo and am not a euro-bike brand
> > snob. I'm an intermediate road cyclist and mountain biker and
weigh
> > approx 145lbs.
>
> Best bet would be to ride one and see how well you can make it fit,
not to
> mention how it handles. The pricing is only $400 less than a new
TREK
> full-carbon bike that will make its debut around the end of January,
with
> the same frame as the 5200.
>
> There's no difficulty building a cheap carbon bike; the trick is to
build
> one that handles well and is very durable.

Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has
a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad bike
but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

01-02-2004, 05:31 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in news:hukJb.16425$lo3.6711
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> Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has
> a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
> mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad bike
> but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.

What are the differences?

01-02-2004, 05:52 PM

"Jenny" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in news:hukJb.16425$lo3.6711
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> > Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has
> > a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
> > mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad bike
> > but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.
>
> What are the differences?

If nothing else, one difference might be the warranty. I don't know what
the warranty is on a *Scanttante* or any other Taiwanese-made carbon frame,
but Trek has arguably one of the BEST warranties around - Lifetime to the
original owner. At the very least, I would test ride an OCLV and see which
one fits you the best....

01-02-2004, 09:40 PM

bfd wrote:

> "Jenny" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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>>"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in news:hukJb.16425$lo3.6711
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>>
>>>Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that has
>>>a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
>>>mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad bike
>>>but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.
>>
>>What are the differences?
>
>
> If nothing else, one difference might be the warranty. I don't know what
> the warranty is on a *Scanttante* or any other Taiwanese-made carbon frame,
> but Trek has arguably one of the BEST warranties around - Lifetime to the
> original owner. At the very least, I would test ride an OCLV and see which
> one fits you the best....
>
>
In total agreement.

Kenny Lee

01-03-2004, 02:43 PM

"Jenny" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
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> > Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that
has
> > a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
> > mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad
bike
> > but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.
>
> What are the differences?

In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a
considerable margin. And since the layups aren't anywhere near as
tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.

However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff
normally that it still rings like a metal bike and there isn't any
weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.

Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to
a carbon fiber bike you might as well move up and not sideways.

01-06-2004, 10:28 PM

Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I
think I'll be heading down to Los Angeles this week and try out both
bikes at a Supergo store down there...

Once upon a time, on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:43:06 GMT, "Tom Kunich"
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>"Jenny" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:Xns9464BC6128329fubar123@216.251.47.166...
>> "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
>news:hukJb.16425$lo3.6711
>> @newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>> > Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that
>has
>> > a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
>> > mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad
>bike
>> > but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.
>>
>> What are the differences?
>
>In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a
>considerable margin. And since the layups aren't anywhere near as
>tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.
>
>However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff
>normally that it still rings like a metal bike and there isn't any
>weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.
>
>Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to
>a carbon fiber bike you might as well move up and not sideways.
>
>

01-07-2004, 12:30 PM

> Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I
> think I'll be heading down to Los Angeles this week and try out both
> bikes at a Supergo store down there...

I don't believe any Supergo shops sell TREK, but I think that Helen's
Cyclery (which does sell TREK) isn't too far away from a Supergo.

--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
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"Zuke" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Guys, thanks for the discussion. Some food for thought for sure. I
> think I'll be heading down to Los Angeles this week and try out both
> bikes at a Supergo store down there...
>
>
> Once upon a time, on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:43:06 GMT, "Tom Kunich"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> scribed:
>
> >"Jenny" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9464BC6128329fubar123@216.251.47.166...
> >> "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> >news:hukJb.16425$lo3.6711
> >> @newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> >> > Actually I would advise this route. There's a guy in the club that
> >has
> >> > a carbon bike that looks just like that Scantante (it might not be
> >> > mind you) with some other off-brand name on it. It isn't a bad
> >bike
> >> > but neither is it anywhere near as good as a Trek.
> >>
> >> What are the differences?
> >
> >In order to make the bike reliable they tend to overbuild them by a
> >considerable margin. And since the layups aren't anywhere near as
> >tight as the Trek believe me, you WANT them overbuilt.
> >
> >However, the result of all of this is that the bike is so stiff
> >normally that it still rings like a metal bike and there isn't any
> >weight advantage from going to carbon fiber.
> >
> >Now none of these are bad things, but if you're looking to move UP to
> >a carbon fiber bike you might as well move up and not sideways.
> >
> >
>