Fat kids - Page 2

01-03-2004, 09:56 AM

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 17:33:17 GMT, "Cathy Kearns"
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>> In 1994 it became mandatory for all bicyclists to wear helmets, and the
>
>and still slightly damp, hair. For some reason, by high school
>bikes are no longer considered cool at all, for girls or boys. I
>don't know why, and have to wonder if helmets have something
>to do with it.

We've never had a mandatory helmet law around here, and when I was a
kid, nobody wore helmets at all. The same uncoolness of bikes showed
up in high school anyway; I believe it's because many kids got to
drive cars to school, so they were the cool ones.
--
Rick Onanian

01-03-2004, 09:57 AM

"psycholist" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> I keep reading in the papers about childhood obesity and it's certainly
> evident all around. I've never seen so many fat, unfit kids.

What fat % is necessary to be categorized as fat?

01-03-2004, 10:36 AM

Now that the holidays have just passed, I'm staring at 17% and looking in
the mirror and going WHOOOAAA! But I'm 48 years old and that's probably the
high end of the good range. It increases with age. There are quite a few
websites that provide the body mass index chart which is a common guide
(though many critics say it's too harsh). Do a search and you shouldn't
have any trouble finding them.

Bob C.
"Jiyang Chen" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> "psycholist" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:bt5cm2$2hfo$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > I keep reading in the papers about childhood obesity and it's certainly
> > evident all around. I've never seen so many fat, unfit kids.
>
> What fat % is necessary to be categorized as fat?
>
>
>

01-03-2004, 11:17 AM

"Jiyang Chen" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

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> "psycholist" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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>> I keep reading in the papers about childhood obesity and it's
>> certainly evident all around. I've never seen so many fat, unfit
>> kids.
>
> What fat % is necessary to be categorized as fat?

The guidelines I've seen are always presented in terms of Body Mass
Index. From <http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm>:

BMI Categories:
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

There probably isn't near as much data on actual percentage of fat, nor
do many people have the means to measure it easily, so the BMI is used
instead.

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Ray Heindl
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01-03-2004, 12:39 PM

"Cathy Kearns" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

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>For some reason, by high school
> bikes are no longer considered cool at all, for girls or boys. I
> don't know why, and have to wonder if helmets have something
> to do with it.

We had no helmet laws back when I was a teenager in the 80's, but I can tell
you the day I stopped riding a bike was the day I got my drivers license.

Driving in the US is a right of passage, a taste of freedom you didn't have
before. That's one reason.

My high school was about 25 miles away (a regional technical school) so
biking to school was never a consideration however, I probably still would
have taken a car for more base reasons ... sex and drugs and rock & roll.
Seriously. Nothing like picking up your girlfriend, skipping school on a
nice day, cruising to the beach while sparking up and listening to some good
music. I was driving a restored 1970 Oldsmobile Delta 88 too ... nothing
like those old cares either.

Those were my "good ol' days" (c:

Now things are a little different ... I spend a lot of my weekends camping
and bicycling around Cape Cod with my girlfriend(s), and I don't even smoke
cigarettes anymore. A walk along the beach is still just as nice though.

C.Q.C.

01-03-2004, 12:39 PM

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 20:17:09 -0000, Ray Heindl <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

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>The guidelines I've seen are always presented in terms of Body Mass
>Index. From <http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm>:

The categories you presented are OK, but with the increasing
prevalence of obesity, such that at BMI of 35 is more commonplace, a
simpler and more realistic classification system is needed.

Here's one with 5 classes which should serve quite well in coming
generations:

1. A person of normal weight
2. Anybody who's just a little bit fatter than the person doing the
evaluating.
3. When this individual goes camping, the bears hide THEIR food.
4. Has own ZIP code.
5. Has own gravitational field.

01-03-2004, 12:44 PM

"Kamus of Kadizhar" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote

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> o__ | If you're old, eat right and ride a decent bike.
> ,>/'_ | Q.
> (_)\(_) | Usenet posting`

Dang, I being quoted now! Coolness ...

C.Q.C.

01-03-2004, 01:26 PM

"Zippy the Pinhead" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 20:17:09 -0000, Ray Heindl <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >The guidelines I've seen are always presented in terms of Body Mass
> >Index. From <http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm>:
>
> The categories you presented are OK, but with the increasing
> prevalence of obesity, such that at BMI of 35 is more commonplace, a
> simpler and more realistic classification system is needed.
>
> Here's one with 5 classes which should serve quite well in coming
> generations:
>
> 1. A person of normal weight
> 2. Anybody who's just a little bit fatter than the person doing the
> evaluating.
> 3. When this individual goes camping, the bears hide THEIR food.
> 4. Has own ZIP code.
> 5. Has own gravitational field.

How about;

Has a chin on the back of their neck
Can pinch an inch on their forehead
Stretch marks on the ankles

Nah, that would be just mean ...

Hey, I'm getting there myself ... but I have my Mothers thighs, I just have
to live with it LOL

Do these spandex tights make my butt look big?
C.Q.C.

01-03-2004, 02:35 PM

"Cathy Kearns" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> I live in an older town where schools are still in the midst of
> neighborhoods and many kids ride their bikes or walk to
> school. (You haven't felt heaven until you can sit in your
> jammies with your coffee while both kids wander off to
> school on their own.)

So do I. And kids USED to ride their bikes to school here. They had
both sides of a long walkway leading to the school entrance lined
competely with bike racks and they were overfilled with bikes all over
the ground and leaning against the buildings.

Then they passed the helmet laws and the principals of the schools
announced that anyone that came to school on a bike without a helmet
would be in trouble. So now instead of kids who might get in an
accident once in 20 years, we have not a single bike ride to school.
Overnight the bikes disappeared. The law was timed to come into effect
over the Christmas break and the first day in January (around 1992?)
instead of a thousand bikes there were a dozen. Then there were none.
Then they removed the bike stands. And now there is a 30 minute
traffic jam out in front of the schools each morning and afternoon.

The fact that there was only a microscopic chance of a kid being
injurred without a helmet and the fact that now the leading causes of
death are becoming weight related doesn't seem to register with those
in power whose only means of expressing something is to pass laws
against it.

01-03-2004, 02:55 PM

In article <6_yJb.33619$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, "Doug"
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> Not only are the motorized, but they now have seats to make them even more
> comfortable and easy to use!
>
> I think someone mentioned it here before - sports injuries are now related
> to watching basketball on TV - "hurt my back getting more chips & beer". Not
> only are the kids fatter today but so are the parents.
>
> They'll need to make those scooter lanes "biggie sized"
>
> Doug
>
>
It really is discouraging. Canada is not as bad as the US in terms of
obese kids but we're getting there. And teens- I see slack, pasty
teenagers with their fat love handles pouring out of their jeans. Okay,
not everyone has to be a size 5 but what about HEALTH? Imagine how they'll
be at 50 if they are already so out of shape!

Whenever I see kids out on bikes, BMXing or freeriding or whatever, I'm
always cheered. Once, last summer, out on a ride we saw three adolescent
boys stopped at the side of the road and one of them asked us if we had
any tools. He was having some kind of problem with his freeride bike- a
pretty nice one and obviously used a lot. The other kid had a Kona
mountain bike and there was another kid also with some kind of mountain
bike. They were telling us about freeriding and I said, "It sounds like a
lot more fun than video games!" and they said, "Oh yeah!" It's always
encouraging to see kids who at least arent' sitting at home on a nice day
playing Xbox and eating Cheesies! Yeah, freeriding can get you injured
but it's no worse for your health than being a rug rat!