Special bike car licence plates? - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

01-08-2004, 04:48 PM

It strikes me as very odd for the League of Illinois Bicyclists (part of the
League of American Bicyclists) to be
raising money by special CAR licence plates, but here it is:
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Hello,
As you know the League of Illinois Bicyclists has been sponsoring the
NATIONAL BICYCLE MONTH LICENSE PROGRAM for the last several years. We
have the ambitious program to go from 300 to 400 license plates this
year. This is one of our major fund raisers and we would like your
help.

Information regarding this program and the application for the license
plates can be found on LIB's website:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Additional information can be obtained from Laura Sanborn Kuhlman at
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] or myself at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] or by
calling us at home at 630/462-5427.

Thank you

Sincerely
Richard Kuhlman
League of Illinois Bicyclists
National Bicycle Month License Plate Program

01-09-2004, 02:55 AM

"Mike Kruger" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:fd58394b702da27b337e85e68a5f8294@news.teranew s.com...
> It strikes me as very odd for the League of Illinois Bicyclists (part of
the
> League of American Bicyclists) to be
> raising money by special CAR licence plates, but here it is:
>
Why is that odd? Most cyclists own cars. Florida also has a bicycle related
plate.

01-09-2004, 05:38 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:48:13 GMT, "Mike Kruger"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>It strikes me as very odd for the League of Illinois Bicyclists (part of the
>League of American Bicyclists) to be
>raising money by special CAR licence plates, but here it is:
<snip>

Why is that odd? Is the LOIB/LOAB a pro-bike organization, or an
anti-car organization? I'm not familiar with it, but I imagine they
would be called the League of Illinois Car Hating Bicyclists if they
were against cars.

It's only here that we have such a high concentration of bicyclists
that are strongly anti-car.

Even among the anti-car people, though, I suspect they're happy to
take money away from car drivers any way they can.
--
Rick Onanian

01-09-2004, 03:57 PM

"Rick Onanian" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:48:13 GMT, "Mike Kruger"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >It strikes me as very odd for the League of Illinois Bicyclists (part of
the
> >League of American Bicyclists) to be
> >raising money by special CAR licence plates, but here it is:
> <snip>
>
> Why is that odd? Is the LOIB/LOAB a pro-bike organization, or an
> anti-car organization? I'm not familiar with it, but I imagine they
> would be called the League of Illinois Car Hating Bicyclists if they
> were against cars.
>
> It's only here that we have such a high concentration of bicyclists
> that are strongly anti-car.

To me, it seems like a church putting out a cheesecake calendar as a fund
raiser.

It's not that church members don't like to look at attractive members of the
opposite sex -- it's that a fund raiser more in tune with the general tone
of the organization would seem more appropriate.

01-09-2004, 06:13 PM

"Mike Kruger" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>
> To me, it seems like a church putting out a cheesecake calendar as a fund
> raiser.

Fortunately not all bicyclists hate automobile drivers and not all
automobile drivers hate bicyclists. The most tragic aspect of bicycling is
this nonsensical concept of ...bicyclists Vs. automobile drivers.

fini

01-10-2004, 12:04 AM

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:13:24 -0800, "Billy Bigelow" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>The most tragic aspect of bicycling is
>this nonsensical concept of ...bicyclists Vs. automobile drivers.

Disagree. A much greater tragedy is that large numbers of people
discount cycling as a means of transport, so that cycle facilities are
all predicated on leisure cycling and those utility cyclists for whom
such things are irrelevant or positively bad are then castigated for
not using them.

Guy
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01-10-2004, 08:51 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
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> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:13:24 -0800, "Billy Bigelow" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >The most tragic aspect of bicycling is
> >this nonsensical concept of ...bicyclists Vs. automobile drivers.
>
> Disagree. A much greater tragedy is that large numbers of people
> discount cycling as a means of transport, so that cycle facilities are
> all predicated on leisure cycling and those utility cyclists for whom
> such things are irrelevant or positively bad are then castigated for
> not using them.

Those are both major problems, but I'm not sure which of them is worse.
I think they're inter-twined with each other to a certain extent.

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01-10-2004, 12:53 PM

> Fortunately not all bicyclists hate automobile drivers and
> not all automobile drivers hate bicyclists.

=v= You're way overpersonalizing the issues.

=v= I would venture to guess that the vast majority of
bicyclists hate the way some people drive. This is *not* the
same as "hating automobile drivers," and it's not even hating
those particular bad drivers.

=v= I'd also venture to guess that probably most bicyclists
are happiest being away from cars. I'm part of that group,
and part of a smaller subset who really do hate cars. But
even this is not "hating automobile drivers."
<_Jym_>

01-11-2004, 03:58 PM

"Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message news:<a513a4897da27c95bab4284019960141@news.terane ws.com>...
> "Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:v1ftvvkeh727vot7cimp0vphi6ag11t4fb@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:48:13 GMT, "Mike Kruger"
> > <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> > >It strikes me as very odd for the League of Illinois Bicyclists (part of
> the
> > >League of American Bicyclists) to be
> > >raising money by special CAR licence plates, but here it is:
> > <snip>
> >
> > Why is that odd? Is the LOIB/LOAB a pro-bike organization, or an
> > anti-car organization? I'm not familiar with it, but I imagine they
> > would be called the League of Illinois Car Hating Bicyclists if they
> > were against cars.
> >
> > It's only here that we have such a high concentration of bicyclists
> > that are strongly anti-car.
>
> To me, it seems like a church putting out a cheesecake calendar as a fund
> raiser.
>
> It's not that church members don't like to look at attractive members of the
> opposite sex -- it's that a fund raiser more in tune with the general tone
> of the organization would seem more appropriate.

Funny you even mention this as my church is doing this exact fundraiser.
Here is Miss January, Lesia Shaffer

<http://www.12****o-church.com/ecclesia/images/cheesecake1.jpg>

Sinners!

01-12-2004, 01:45 PM

On 10 Jan 2004 13:53:36 -0800, Jym Dyer <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Fortunately not all bicyclists hate automobile drivers and
>> not all automobile drivers hate bicyclists.
>
>=v= You're way overpersonalizing the issues.
>
>=v= I would venture to guess that the vast majority of
>bicyclists hate the way some people drive. This is *not* the
>same as "hating automobile drivers," and it's not even hating
>those particular bad drivers.

True. That's no different, however, than saying that the vast
majority of [motorcyclists|pedestrians|professional
drivers|automobile drivers|anybody else] hates the way that some
people drive.

>=v= I'd also venture to guess that probably most bicyclists
>are happiest being away from cars. I'm part of that group,

Maybe, if there was a place away from autos that was as nicely paved
(or better) than automobile roads that wasn't filled with
hazards/obstacles such as small children, unknowledgable bicyclists,
and rollerbladers. In fact, such a place exists -- multi use paths
near me. Elsewhere, however, from what I hear on this newsgroup,
multi use paths are jungles.

>and part of a smaller subset who really do hate cars. But
>even this is not "hating automobile drivers."

Nope, it's "preferring a non-automobile environment".

> <_Jym_>
--
Rick Onanian