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Old 02-12-2004, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
Don Wiss
 
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Why no winter helmets?

Hi,

I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't be too thick, inside. And a
head/earband to cover the ears, but the strap across the forehead is too
wide for between my glasses and helmet.

The winter helmet would of course be insulated. With some sort of earflaps.
And it could be lighter than a motorcycle helmet.

Don <donwiss at panix.com>.
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:58:11 -0500, Don Wiss <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
>stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
>Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't be too thick, inside. And a
>head/earband to cover the ears, but the strap across the forehead is too
>wide for between my glasses and helmet.
>
>The winter helmet would of course be insulated. With some sort of earflaps.
>And it could be lighter than a motorcycle helmet.
>


Nobody rides in the ice.

Correction: nobody of commercial significance, enough to justify a
production run of helmets (with all the associated capital costs,
tooling etc) rides in the ice.

Ergo, no winter helmets.

market forces are a bitch, arent' they?

-Luigi

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Old 02-12-2004, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
Gooserider
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?


"Don Wiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
> stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
>


Bell is coming out with a model called the "Metro". It's designed for
commuters and casual riders, but it has an available winter kit. It also has
a neat optional mirror that folds into the visor, and a clip on the back to
which one can attach a blinkie. Seems like a good idea!


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Old 02-12-2004, 05:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:24:42 -0500,
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

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Please correct this statement:
"One thing about those "gallon" paint cans: They aren't. A U.S. Gallon
is 4.3 L; these paint cans, cunningly, are less than that, in fact,
they're actually just 4 L."

One U.S. gallon = 3.785 litres.
One Imperial gallon = 4.545 litres.
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Old 02-12-2004, 06:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
Benjamin Weiner
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

Don Wiss <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
> stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
> Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't be too thick, inside. And a
> head/earband to cover the ears, but the strap across the forehead is too
> wide for between my glasses and helmet.


> The winter helmet would of course be insulated. With some sort of earflaps.
> And it could be lighter than a motorcycle helmet.


Lots of options:
Wear a hat, cap, or thin liner (polypro beanie) under a larger bike helmet.
Ditto but under a BMX-style bike helmet (little or no venting).
Wear a snowboarding or skiing helmet. Lined, covers ears, on
seasonal closeout at a shop near you right now.
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Old 02-12-2004, 06:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:55:02 -0800, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:24:42 -0500,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>photos, rants, raves

>Please correct this statement:
>"One thing about those "gallon" paint cans: They aren't. A U.S. Gallon
>is 4.3 L; these paint cans, cunningly, are less than that, in fact,
>they're actually just 4 L."
>
>One U.S. gallon = 3.785 litres.
>One Imperial gallon = 4.545 litres.


drat, you're right. Always count on ZK to zap me on conversions.

This is what I get for drinking all those UK pints of ale.

-Luigi
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Old 02-12-2004, 08:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
Tom Keats
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

In article <402c4d90$1@darkstar>,
Benjamin Weiner <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Lots of options:
> Wear a hat, cap, or thin liner (polypro beanie) under a larger bike helmet.
> Ditto but under a BMX-style bike helmet (little or no venting).
> Wear a snowboarding or skiing helmet. Lined, covers ears, on
> seasonal closeout at a shop near you right now.


I just use one of those traditional old helmet covers
that come with a neck flap. It can be a bit of a struggle
to fit it over the helmet & visor. When I finally do, it
stops raining. When I take it off, it starts raining again.

Just covering the vents with it gets the helmet interior
plenty warm.


cheers,
Tom

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Old 02-12-2004, 09:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
Matt O'Toole
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:58:11 -0500, Don Wiss <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the
>> mainstream bike stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep
>> the head cool, use. Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't
>> be too thick, inside. And a head/earband to cover the ears, but the
>> strap across the forehead is too wide for between my glasses and
>> helmet.
>>
>> The winter helmet would of course be insulated. With some sort of
>> earflaps. And it could be lighter than a motorcycle helmet.
>>

>
> Nobody rides in the ice.
>
> Correction: nobody of commercial significance, enough to justify a
> production run of helmets (with all the associated capital costs,
> tooling etc) rides in the ice.
>
> Ergo, no winter helmets.
>
> market forces are a bitch, arent' they?


I guess you could try a ski/snowboard helmet...

Matt O.


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Old 02-12-2004, 11:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Why no winter helmets?


"Don Wiss" wrote ...
> Hi,
>
> I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
> stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
> Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't be too thick, inside. And

a
> head/earband to cover the ears, but the strap across the forehead is too
> wide for between my glasses and helmet.
>
> The winter helmet would of course be insulated. With some sort of

earflaps.
> And it could be lighter than a motorcycle helmet.
>
> Don <donwiss at panix.com>.


Giro makes a snowboard helmet that they suggest is suitable for cold weather
cycling. Detachable earflaps, removable foam plugs for the vent holes, clip
to keep goggles in place. Mine fits well with a thin wool hat or balaclava
underneath.
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
Ferenc Lovro
 
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Re: Why no winter helmets?

Don Wiss <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>. ..
> I'm sure someone will pop out and point to one, but in the mainstream bike
> stores the helmets are all designed for summer, keep the head cool, use.
> Sure you can cover them. Put a liner, but can't be too thick, inside. And a
> head/earband to cover the ears, but the strap across the forehead is too
> wide for between my glasses and helmet.


for the winter i wear an older briko helmet which can be adjusted by
different sizes of pads. i've removed most of these, so now i can wear
an adequate stussy beanie underneath.

frank
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