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02-23-2004, 10:03 PM

The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
so do we.

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02-25-2004, 04:22 PM

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:

> The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
> better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
> ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
> so do we.
>
> Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> site of my dreams!

There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.

I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
I cope with the transportation ramifications of stingy design by
using a specially equipped motorcycle (and, of course, bicycles), but
if I wanted to drive a car, I would have a very short list of vehicles
from which to choose.

Some of those few vehicles would be full-sized trucks.

So before you go suggesting that SUV gluttony makes one fat, consider
that one who is fat for reasons other than gluttony might choose a
large, truck-based vehicle simply in order to fit into his or her own
car. That is the fault of the manufacturers and the sizeist society
at large, not of the big person who is making do.

Being big-- fat, tall, wide, heavy, or whatever-- is not wrong. You
should thank your lucky stars that most big folks have gentle and
patient dispositions when you insult them.

Chalo Colina

02-25-2004, 04:22 PM

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:

> The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
> better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
> ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
> so do we.
>
> Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> site of my dreams!

There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.

I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
I cope with the transportation ramifications of stingy design by
using a specially equipped motorcycle (and, of course, bicycles), but
if I wanted to drive a car, I would have a very short list of vehicles
from which to choose.

Some of those few vehicles would be full-sized trucks.

So before you go suggesting that SUV gluttony makes one fat, consider
that one who is fat for reasons other than gluttony might choose a
large, truck-based vehicle simply in order to fit into his or her own
car. That is the fault of the manufacturers and the sizeist society
at large, not of the big person who is making do.

Being big-- fat, tall, wide, heavy, or whatever-- is not wrong. You
should thank your lucky stars that most big folks have gentle and
patient dispositions when you insult them.

Chalo Colina

02-25-2004, 10:56 PM

On 25 Feb 2004 17:22:28 -0800, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Chalo) wrote:

>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>
[snip stuff about SUV's & the "Do you want to super-size your order
sir?" culture...]
>
>I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
>size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
> I cope with the transportation ramifications of stingy design by
>using a specially equipped motorcycle (and, of course, bicycles), but
>if I wanted to drive a car, I would have a very short list of vehicles
>from which to choose.

The latest stats I could find say that 99% of US adult males
lie in the height range 5' 2" - 6' 3".

You are way up the top end of the curve for height
(along with about 1 in 10,000 of the population) , so it's not
surprising that you have had a hard time fitting in cars designed
for the majority.

It's poor economcs for general automotive manufacturers
to design their vehicles to accomodate the very top and tail of the
height curve: The middling majority would be forced to pay
for the extra metal and glass (plus the associated vehicle mass
and wind resistance), while gaining no real benefit from the
increased size.

Vic.

02-25-2004, 10:56 PM

On 25 Feb 2004 17:22:28 -0800, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Chalo) wrote:

>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>
[snip stuff about SUV's & the "Do you want to super-size your order
sir?" culture...]
>
>I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
>size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
> I cope with the transportation ramifications of stingy design by
>using a specially equipped motorcycle (and, of course, bicycles), but
>if I wanted to drive a car, I would have a very short list of vehicles
>from which to choose.

The latest stats I could find say that 99% of US adult males
lie in the height range 5' 2" - 6' 3".

You are way up the top end of the curve for height
(along with about 1 in 10,000 of the population) , so it's not
surprising that you have had a hard time fitting in cars designed
for the majority.

It's poor economcs for general automotive manufacturers
to design their vehicles to accomodate the very top and tail of the
height curve: The middling majority would be forced to pay
for the extra metal and glass (plus the associated vehicle mass
and wind resistance), while gaining no real benefit from the
increased size.

Vic.

02-26-2004, 01:26 AM

"Chalo" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:8b4b7de4.0402251722.5198229e@posting.google.c om...
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>
> > The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
> > better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
> > ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
> > so do we.
> >
> > Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> > site of my dreams!
>
> There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
> name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
> comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
> shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.
>
> I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
> size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
>

400 pounds? So you eat 4000 calories a day, right? You're 6 inches shorter
than Shaquille O'Neal, and weigh 80 pounds more? Sure.....

02-26-2004, 01:26 AM

"Chalo" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:8b4b7de4.0402251722.5198229e@posting.google.c om...
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>
> > The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
> > better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
> > ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
> > so do we.
> >
> > Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> > site of my dreams!
>
> There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
> name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
> comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
> shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.
>
> I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
> size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
>

400 pounds? So you eat 4000 calories a day, right? You're 6 inches shorter
than Shaquille O'Neal, and weigh 80 pounds more? Sure.....

02-26-2004, 02:20 AM

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:26:22 GMT, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Chalo" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:8b4b7de4.0402251722.5198229e@posting.google. com...
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>>
>> > The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
>> > better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
>> > ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
>> > so do we.
>> >
>> > Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>> >
>> > site of my dreams!
>>
>> There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
>> name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
>> comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
>> shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.
>>
>> I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
>> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
>> size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
>>
>
>400 pounds? So you eat 4000 calories a day, right? You're 6 inches shorter
>than Shaquille O'Neal, and weigh 80 pounds more? Sure.....

Dude, Imagine the kind of BIKE he rides! It's gotta be the Hummer of
bicycles, eh? lol

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

-B

02-26-2004, 02:20 AM

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:26:22 GMT, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>"Chalo" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:8b4b7de4.0402251722.5198229e@posting.google. com...
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
>>
>> > The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
>> > better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
>> > ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
>> > so do we.
>> >
>> > Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>> >
>> > site of my dreams!
>>
>> There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
>> name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
>> comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
>> shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.
>>
>> I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
>> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
>> size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
>>
>
>400 pounds? So you eat 4000 calories a day, right? You're 6 inches shorter
>than Shaquille O'Neal, and weigh 80 pounds more? Sure.....

Dude, Imagine the kind of BIKE he rides! It's gotta be the Hummer of
bicycles, eh? lol

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

-B

02-26-2004, 03:39 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:26:22 GMT, "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Chalo" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >news:8b4b7de4.0402251722.5198229e@posting.google. com...
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Joe Pig) wrote:
> >>
> >> > The subconscious mind, once sold on the idea that bigger things are
> >> > better, will often override our best intentions. We, in turn, find
> >> > ourselves along for the ride, and as the things around us grow bigger,
> >> > so do we.
> >> >
> >> > Check out this article [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> >
> >> > site of my dreams!
> >>
> >> There is a name for the mindset that says, "smaller is better". That
> >> name is stinginess. If you were a big person trying to find a
> >> comfortable fit in a stingy world, sizeist crap like that you are
> >> shoveling would just be more of a dreadfully familiar irritant.
> >>
> >> I grew too big for most cars (6'7") before I was allowed to drive one.
> >> Now at 6'8" and about 400 lbs., I am constantly presented with "one
> >> size" public accomodations that are not, in fact, accomodations to me.
> >>
> >
> >400 pounds? So you eat 4000 calories a day, right? You're 6 inches shorter
> >than Shaquille O'Neal, and weigh 80 pounds more? Sure.....
>
> Dude, Imagine the kind of BIKE he rides! It's gotta be the Hummer of
> bicycles, eh? lol

Did you see the custom frame that Cannondale made for Shaq in the
current issue of Bicycling mag? They didn't give the size (at least I
didn't see it), but when they put one of the three copies of the frame
through their destructive test routine, they couldn't break it; the
machine was at its max output, and still couldn't break the frame.

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