Re: Folk Transportation [was Re: Greedy, arrogant bike shop owner] - Page 3 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

04-01-2004, 11:19 PM

Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:41:02 -0500, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>,
"frkrygow" <"frkrygow"@omitcc.ysu.edu> wrote:

>I think the situation is analogous to an elderly driver at a stop sign,
>waiting to pull out into a busy four lane.

Two of my local folk cycling heros are in their eighties.

The Scottish lady with the nice Raleigh three speed rides in the
street, rolls stop signs, uses hand signals and "jumps curbs" to use
pedestrian crosswalks.

Today I spoke with a guy I've seen all over town. He's been riding
single speed bikes since he was nine (a BSA). His last car was a 1949
Dodge. He's eighty two and rides in the streets, back lanes and a few
sidewalks.
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zk

04-01-2004, 11:19 PM

Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:41:02 -0500, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>,
"frkrygow" <"frkrygow"@omitcc.ysu.edu> wrote:

>I think the situation is analogous to an elderly driver at a stop sign,
>waiting to pull out into a busy four lane.

Two of my local folk cycling heros are in their eighties.

The Scottish lady with the nice Raleigh three speed rides in the
street, rolls stop signs, uses hand signals and "jumps curbs" to use
pedestrian crosswalks.

Today I spoke with a guy I've seen all over town. He's been riding
single speed bikes since he was nine (a BSA). His last car was a 1949
Dodge. He's eighty two and rides in the streets, back lanes and a few
sidewalks.
--
zk

04-02-2004, 08:38 AM

> Jay jay wrote:
>
> << The Ministry of Transportation in Ontario expects that cyclists should be a
> MINIMUM of one metre (39 in) from the edge of the driven portion of the road
> (where the asphalt begins) and that motor vehicles should pass a MINIMUM of
> one metre ( 39in) from the left side of the outer portion of bike/rider.
> These minimums are expected be be increased for matters of safety ( glass,
> potholes, intersections, unsafe passing areas, etc)
> Cling closer to edge if YOU want, but I need manuveuring room on both sides
> of my cycle that motor vehicle operators may not be aware of. >>

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>R15757 at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote on 4/2/04 12:41 AM:
> I suspect you might have misread the law a bit in your own favor, although I'm
> not familiar with Ontario's laws. I would be surprised and impressed if the
> law
> was really as you stated it.<snip>

Contact the Ontario Ministry of Transportation and they will send you
several multipage page booklets on cycling guidelines and related laws for
Ontario roadways, including this part about vehicle spacing, several times.

04-02-2004, 08:38 AM

> Jay jay wrote:
>
> << The Ministry of Transportation in Ontario expects that cyclists should be a
> MINIMUM of one metre (39 in) from the edge of the driven portion of the road
> (where the asphalt begins) and that motor vehicles should pass a MINIMUM of
> one metre ( 39in) from the left side of the outer portion of bike/rider.
> These minimums are expected be be increased for matters of safety ( glass,
> potholes, intersections, unsafe passing areas, etc)
> Cling closer to edge if YOU want, but I need manuveuring room on both sides
> of my cycle that motor vehicle operators may not be aware of. >>

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>R15757 at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote on 4/2/04 12:41 AM:
> I suspect you might have misread the law a bit in your own favor, although I'm
> not familiar with Ontario's laws. I would be surprised and impressed if the
> law
> was really as you stated it.<snip>

Contact the Ontario Ministry of Transportation and they will send you
several multipage page booklets on cycling guidelines and related laws for
Ontario roadways, including this part about vehicle spacing, several times.

04-02-2004, 08:38 AM

> Jay jay wrote:
>
> << The Ministry of Transportation in Ontario expects that cyclists should be a
> MINIMUM of one metre (39 in) from the edge of the driven portion of the road
> (where the asphalt begins) and that motor vehicles should pass a MINIMUM of
> one metre ( 39in) from the left side of the outer portion of bike/rider.
> These minimums are expected be be increased for matters of safety ( glass,
> potholes, intersections, unsafe passing areas, etc)
> Cling closer to edge if YOU want, but I need manuveuring room on both sides
> of my cycle that motor vehicle operators may not be aware of. >>

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>R15757 at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote on 4/2/04 12:41 AM:
> I suspect you might have misread the law a bit in your own favor, although I'm
> not familiar with Ontario's laws. I would be surprised and impressed if the
> law
> was really as you stated it.<snip>

Contact the Ontario Ministry of Transportation and they will send you
several multipage page booklets on cycling guidelines and related laws for
Ontario roadways, including this part about vehicle spacing, several times.