Re: AVOID ICYCLESUSA.COM EBAY RIPOFF JUNK THEFT FRAUD CHEAT - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

04-01-2004, 04:41 AM

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:29:55 CST, "Rocketman"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>A couple of months ago I bought a Truvativ 104 BCD 4-bolt chainring from
>ICYCLESUSA.COM on Ebay. The damned chainring won't fit either of my 4-arm
>cranksets (one is XT with an Avid Standaptor, the other is Shimano Deore).
>It's obviously a defective part, incorrectly machined so it is too small to
>clear the chainring bolt perches. I've never seen a chainring with this
>problem - ever. The part was sold on Ebay with no warning given anywhere in
>the auction listing about the fact that it won't fit standard 64/104 cranks.
>In the auction it says: "it will fit cranks with a 4 bolt pattern." Well,
>that is a lie. The chainring is obviously defective, unusable junk.

You bought a chainring without being explicitly sure what it's BCD
is, and you're angry?

Sheesh. Might as well buy a headset that says "Fits standard bikes"
without emailing to ask if it's threaded or threadless, and if it's
size is 1" or 1-1/8".

To steal Sheldon Brown's tagline:
+---------------------------------------------+
| The nice thing about standards is that |
| there are so many of them to choose from. |
| --Andrew S. Tanenbaum |
+---------------------------------------------+
--
Rick Onanian

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04-01-2004, 08:53 AM

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
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64o6098sn5t0209j9se5dllnpo97itud0@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:29:55 CST, "Rocketman"
> <rocketman@bikerider.com> wrote:
> >A couple of months ago I bought a Truvativ 104 BCD 4-bolt chainring from
> >ICYCLESUSA.COM on Ebay. The damned chainring won't fit either of my
4-arm
> >cranksets (one is XT with an Avid Standaptor, the other is Shimano
Deore).
> >It's obviously a defective part, incorrectly machined so it is too small
to
> >clear the chainring bolt perches. I've never seen a chainring with this
> >problem - ever. The part was sold on Ebay with no warning given anywhere
in
> >the auction listing about the fact that it won't fit standard 64/104
cranks.
> >In the auction it says: "it will fit cranks with a 4 bolt pattern." Well,
> >that is a lie. The chainring is obviously defective, unusable junk.
>
> You bought a chainring without being explicitly sure what it's BCD
> is, and you're angry?

Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent to
the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not mentioned
in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose defects,
and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was made
in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
no replies of any kind.

R

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04-01-2004, 08:53 AM

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
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64o6098sn5t0209j9se5dllnpo97itud0@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:29:55 CST, "Rocketman"
> <rocketman@bikerider.com> wrote:
> >A couple of months ago I bought a Truvativ 104 BCD 4-bolt chainring from
> >ICYCLESUSA.COM on Ebay. The damned chainring won't fit either of my
4-arm
> >cranksets (one is XT with an Avid Standaptor, the other is Shimano
Deore).
> >It's obviously a defective part, incorrectly machined so it is too small
to
> >clear the chainring bolt perches. I've never seen a chainring with this
> >problem - ever. The part was sold on Ebay with no warning given anywhere
in
> >the auction listing about the fact that it won't fit standard 64/104
cranks.
> >In the auction it says: "it will fit cranks with a 4 bolt pattern." Well,
> >that is a lie. The chainring is obviously defective, unusable junk.
>
> You bought a chainring without being explicitly sure what it's BCD
> is, and you're angry?

Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent to
the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not mentioned
in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose defects,
and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was made
in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
no replies of any kind.

R

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04-01-2004, 08:53 AM

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
news

64o6098sn5t0209j9se5dllnpo97itud0@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:29:55 CST, "Rocketman"
> <rocketman@bikerider.com> wrote:
> >A couple of months ago I bought a Truvativ 104 BCD 4-bolt chainring from
> >ICYCLESUSA.COM on Ebay. The damned chainring won't fit either of my
4-arm
> >cranksets (one is XT with an Avid Standaptor, the other is Shimano
Deore).
> >It's obviously a defective part, incorrectly machined so it is too small
to
> >clear the chainring bolt perches. I've never seen a chainring with this
> >problem - ever. The part was sold on Ebay with no warning given anywhere
in
> >the auction listing about the fact that it won't fit standard 64/104
cranks.
> >In the auction it says: "it will fit cranks with a 4 bolt pattern." Well,
> >that is a lie. The chainring is obviously defective, unusable junk.
>
> You bought a chainring without being explicitly sure what it's BCD
> is, and you're angry?

Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent to
the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not mentioned
in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose defects,
and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was made
in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
no replies of any kind.

R

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04-01-2004, 09:37 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. Much appreciated.

"Rocketman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
> 64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
> incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent
to
> the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not
mentioned
> in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose
defects,
> and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was
made
> in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
> no replies of any kind.
>
> R
>

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04-01-2004, 09:37 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. Much appreciated.

"Rocketman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
> 64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
> incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent
to
> the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not
mentioned
> in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose
defects,
> and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was
made
> in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
> no replies of any kind.
>
> R
>

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04-01-2004, 09:37 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. Much appreciated.

"Rocketman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> Truvativ has only made 4-arm chainrings with one bolt circle diameter:
> 64/104mm. The chainring that I purchased has the correct BCD; but it is
> incorrectly machined, and does not clear the chainring perches (adjacent
to
> the bolts). The chainring was a defective part, but that was not
mentioned
> in the auction. It's the responsibility of the seller to disclose
defects,
> and to provide mechanisms for refund/exchange. No such disclosure was
made
> in the auction listing. I sent numerous emails to the seller, and received
> no replies of any kind.
>
> R
>

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