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Old 04-03-2004, 06:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
Tom Kunich
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

"Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

for
> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

are
> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>
>
> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV


Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.

The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
protections.


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Old 04-03-2004, 06:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
Tom Kunich
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

"Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:4f3a7375.0404031627.7375618f@posting.google.c om...
> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

for
> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

are
> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>
>
> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV


Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.

The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
protections.


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Old 04-03-2004, 06:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
Tom Kunich
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

"Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:4f3a7375.0404031627.7375618f@posting.google.c om...
> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

for
> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

are
> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>
>
> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV


Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.

The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
protections.


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Old 04-04-2004, 04:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
Stephen Harding
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

Eric S. Sande wrote:

>>My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>>use them again if they were being given away. YMMV.

>
> My experience with TT2Ks has been very positive, no failures in
> thousands of miles of use.
>
> I have no knowledge of Ultra 3000s.


I don't know about the Ultra 3000s either, but I concur that the
TTs are a great tire. Used them exclusively for years on my
commuter/tourer.

I have also run Super Sports (??) and wasn't very impressed. They
seemed to produce a lot of flats and looking at them closely one
day, I noted a lot of small sand grain-like irregularities in the
interior tire wall and thought perhaps they contributed to the
flatting.

I've since heard that Continental can be somewhat irregular in
the quality of their tires, with "bad batches" sometimes being
produced. Seems unlikely for a tire-maker with such long time
experience, but who knows. I buy only Conti TTs for my tourer,
and its the only Conti tire I buy. I've been experimenting with
other brands on my other bikes. No real quality conclusions yet.


SMH

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Old 04-04-2004, 04:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
Stephen Harding
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

Eric S. Sande wrote:

>>My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>>use them again if they were being given away. YMMV.

>
> My experience with TT2Ks has been very positive, no failures in
> thousands of miles of use.
>
> I have no knowledge of Ultra 3000s.


I don't know about the Ultra 3000s either, but I concur that the
TTs are a great tire. Used them exclusively for years on my
commuter/tourer.

I have also run Super Sports (??) and wasn't very impressed. They
seemed to produce a lot of flats and looking at them closely one
day, I noted a lot of small sand grain-like irregularities in the
interior tire wall and thought perhaps they contributed to the
flatting.

I've since heard that Continental can be somewhat irregular in
the quality of their tires, with "bad batches" sometimes being
produced. Seems unlikely for a tire-maker with such long time
experience, but who knows. I buy only Conti TTs for my tourer,
and its the only Conti tire I buy. I've been experimenting with
other brands on my other bikes. No real quality conclusions yet.


SMH

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Old 04-04-2004, 04:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
Stephen Harding
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

Eric S. Sande wrote:

>>My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>>use them again if they were being given away. YMMV.

>
> My experience with TT2Ks has been very positive, no failures in
> thousands of miles of use.
>
> I have no knowledge of Ultra 3000s.


I don't know about the Ultra 3000s either, but I concur that the
TTs are a great tire. Used them exclusively for years on my
commuter/tourer.

I have also run Super Sports (??) and wasn't very impressed. They
seemed to produce a lot of flats and looking at them closely one
day, I noted a lot of small sand grain-like irregularities in the
interior tire wall and thought perhaps they contributed to the
flatting.

I've since heard that Continental can be somewhat irregular in
the quality of their tires, with "bad batches" sometimes being
produced. Seems unlikely for a tire-maker with such long time
experience, but who knows. I buy only Conti TTs for my tourer,
and its the only Conti tire I buy. I've been experimenting with
other brands on my other bikes. No real quality conclusions yet.


SMH

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Old 04-04-2004, 05:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:27:24 GMT, Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:4f3a7375.0404031627.7375618f@posting.google.c om...
>> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

> news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
>> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

> for
>> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
>> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

> are
>> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>>
>>
>> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV

>
> Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
> weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
> on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
> have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.
>
> The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
> protections.


I used to use the GP's 8 years ago and side wall cuts were my biggest
problem. I tried the 3000's and they didn't wear as well as I'd
like. Now I buy the Sport 1000's (for commuting and reqular club
rides) and I find them to be inexpensive and they where well. Now I
just need to figure out how to keep them from dry rotting (my bike
tends to be in my car when I'm not riding on it). :-)

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Old 04-04-2004, 05:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:27:24 GMT, Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:4f3a7375.0404031627.7375618f@posting.google.c om...
>> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

> news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
>> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

> for
>> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
>> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

> are
>> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>>
>>
>> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV

>
> Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
> weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
> on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
> have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.
>
> The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
> protections.


I used to use the GP's 8 years ago and side wall cuts were my biggest
problem. I tried the 3000's and they didn't wear as well as I'd
like. Now I buy the Sport 1000's (for commuting and reqular club
rides) and I find them to be inexpensive and they where well. Now I
just need to figure out how to keep them from dry rotting (my bike
tends to be in my car when I'm not riding on it). :-)

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Old 04-04-2004, 05:44 AM   #19 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:27:24 GMT, Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Dick Durbin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:4f3a7375.0404031627.7375618f@posting.google.c om...
>> "Gooserider" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message

> news:<YJmbc.395012$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. com>...
>> > Performance has these on sale for $9.96 for Team P members. I'm looking

> for
>> > a 700x25 tire for commuting and training (not a racer just putting in
>> > miles). They're wire bead but I'm not a lightweight so the extra grams

> are
>> > no biggie. Are these a good tire?

>>
>>
>> My experience with Continental tires has been so bad that I would not
>> use them again if they were being given away. YMMV

>
> Continental GP's, the original version, were racing tires and the sidewalls
> weren't protected with any coating. They would easily get slashes and fail
> on dirty city streets. The Ultra was always a great tire though it didn't
> have as long a wear life as the GP if you didn't get a sidewall failure.
>
> The latest GP's and Ultra's are more alike now and both have sidewall
> protections.


I used to use the GP's 8 years ago and side wall cuts were my biggest
problem. I tried the 3000's and they didn't wear as well as I'd
like. Now I buy the Sport 1000's (for commuting and reqular club
rides) and I find them to be inexpensive and they where well. Now I
just need to figure out how to keep them from dry rotting (my bike
tends to be in my car when I'm not riding on it). :-)

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Old 04-04-2004, 08:00 AM   #20 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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Re: Continental Ultra 3000 any good?

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...

....

> I used to use the GP's 8 years ago and side wall cuts were my biggest
> problem. I tried the 3000's and they didn't wear as well as I'd
> like. Now I buy the Sport 1000's (for commuting and reqular club
> rides) and I find them to be inexpensive and they where well. Now I
> just need to figure out how to keep them from dry rotting (my bike
> tends to be in my car when I'm not riding on it). :-)


That's what I use too.

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