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04-08-2004, 10:43 AM

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:16:37 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> >When we're heading up the hill, which has many blind corners, I routinely
>> >give hand signals to hold cars back (keep them from passing) when I can
> see
>> >ahead and there's a car heading down. Likewise I'll give hand signals to
>> >cars coming down the hill, telling them to slow down, when there's a car
>> >coming up from behind us.
>>
>> I stopped that after a ride organizer (years ago - don't remember
>> which) asked us not to do it. His concern was that an automobile would
>> follow the handsigns without due caution and have an accident and come
>> back and sue. After thinking it over, I concur with that. I don't wave
>> a cyclist through an intersection and don't follow someone on that
>> basis either - I prefer to check things out for myself. I think it is
>> a good policy for automobiles as well.
>
> But again, the initial example I gave was not about waving somebody through,
> but rather holding them back. I really can't see a downside to giving a
> handsignal to a car telling them that it's presently unsafe to pass. I do
> see your point in terms of waving them through however.

That I agre with 100%, let them decide if it's safe but inform them
when it's not.

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04-09-2004, 07:28 AM

>But again, the initial example I gave was not about waving somebody through,
>but rather holding them back. I really can't see a downside to giving a
>handsignal to a car telling them that it's presently unsafe to pass. I do
>see your point in terms of waving them through however.

I agree. I think I have only held a person back once. It was on a rural road
and I was going a good clip on a Sunday morning. A car came up behind me, not
too fast, and started to pass. It was double yellow. I moved to my left a
little with my left arm extended and hand back. He dropped back. He had not
seen a car that had dropped into a little fold in the terrain and had just
popped up. Had he gone around he would have almost certainly had a head on
collision. When it was clear, they passed. The lady in the passanger seat
smiles and waved at me as they went by and the guy behind the wheel looked
mighty sheepish. I think he had just gotten an earful. From the looks of how
they were dressed and the time of the morning, I think they were on their way
to church.

04-09-2004, 07:28 AM

>But again, the initial example I gave was not about waving somebody through,
>but rather holding them back. I really can't see a downside to giving a
>handsignal to a car telling them that it's presently unsafe to pass. I do
>see your point in terms of waving them through however.

I agree. I think I have only held a person back once. It was on a rural road
and I was going a good clip on a Sunday morning. A car came up behind me, not
too fast, and started to pass. It was double yellow. I moved to my left a
little with my left arm extended and hand back. He dropped back. He had not
seen a car that had dropped into a little fold in the terrain and had just
popped up. Had he gone around he would have almost certainly had a head on
collision. When it was clear, they passed. The lady in the passanger seat
smiles and waved at me as they went by and the guy behind the wheel looked
mighty sheepish. I think he had just gotten an earful. From the looks of how
they were dressed and the time of the morning, I think they were on their way
to church.

04-09-2004, 07:28 AM

>But again, the initial example I gave was not about waving somebody through,
>but rather holding them back. I really can't see a downside to giving a
>handsignal to a car telling them that it's presently unsafe to pass. I do
>see your point in terms of waving them through however.

I agree. I think I have only held a person back once. It was on a rural road
and I was going a good clip on a Sunday morning. A car came up behind me, not
too fast, and started to pass. It was double yellow. I moved to my left a
little with my left arm extended and hand back. He dropped back. He had not
seen a car that had dropped into a little fold in the terrain and had just
popped up. Had he gone around he would have almost certainly had a head on
collision. When it was clear, they passed. The lady in the passanger seat
smiles and waved at me as they went by and the guy behind the wheel looked
mighty sheepish. I think he had just gotten an earful. From the looks of how
they were dressed and the time of the morning, I think they were on their way
to church.