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Old 04-15-2004, 02:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
Chris Zacho The Wheelman
 
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Re: handlebar height

A more level torso, less frontal area, better aerodynamics and a sore
back! LOL

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And a really low gear for the hills!"

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Old 04-15-2004, 03:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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>But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.

If you never take a turn at the front why should the others let you draft them?
I'd try to drop someone like that in a heartbeat -- most cyclists would.
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Old 04-15-2004, 03:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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>But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.

If you never take a turn at the front why should the others let you draft them?
I'd try to drop someone like that in a heartbeat -- most cyclists would.
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Old 04-15-2004, 03:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: handlebar height

>But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.

If you never take a turn at the front why should the others let you draft them?
I'd try to drop someone like that in a heartbeat -- most cyclists would.
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Old 04-15-2004, 03:11 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: handlebar height

>But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.

If you never take a turn at the front why should the others let you draft them?
I'd try to drop someone like that in a heartbeat -- most cyclists would.
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Old 04-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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In article <NcCfc.10542$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, usenet-
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> Originally posted by David Kerber In article
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > What is the explanation for the lowering of handlebars from the much
> > higher position of the 50's and 60's when they were almost level with
> > the saddle ? What does a rider gain from this ?

>
> I assume you mean for racing. If that's what you mean, it's simply that
> lower bars allow the rider to get a bit more aerodynamic, and thus go a
> bit faster.
>
>
> =============================================
>
>
> But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.


If you're in the front, or trying to break away, you do...


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Old 04-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #27 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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In article <NcCfc.10542$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, usenet-
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> Originally posted by David Kerber In article
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > What is the explanation for the lowering of handlebars from the much
> > higher position of the 50's and 60's when they were almost level with
> > the saddle ? What does a rider gain from this ?

>
> I assume you mean for racing. If that's what you mean, it's simply that
> lower bars allow the rider to get a bit more aerodynamic, and thus go a
> bit faster.
>
>
> =============================================
>
>
> But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.


If you're in the front, or trying to break away, you do...


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Old 04-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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Re: handlebar height

In article <NcCfc.10542$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, usenet-
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> Originally posted by David Kerber In article
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > What is the explanation for the lowering of handlebars from the much
> > higher position of the 50's and 60's when they were almost level with
> > the saddle ? What does a rider gain from this ?

>
> I assume you mean for racing. If that's what you mean, it's simply that
> lower bars allow the rider to get a bit more aerodynamic, and thus go a
> bit faster.
>
>
> =============================================
>
>
> But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.


If you're in the front, or trying to break away, you do...


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Old 04-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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Re: handlebar height

In article <NcCfc.10542$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, usenet-
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> Originally posted by David Kerber In article
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > What is the explanation for the lowering of handlebars from the much
> > higher position of the 50's and 60's when they were almost level with
> > the saddle ? What does a rider gain from this ?

>
> I assume you mean for racing. If that's what you mean, it's simply that
> lower bars allow the rider to get a bit more aerodynamic, and thus go a
> bit faster.
>
>
> =============================================
>
>
> But you don't need to be aerodynamic when riding in a bunch of riders.


If you're in the front, or trying to break away, you do...


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Old 04-15-2004, 05:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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In article <LeCfc.11827$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthlink .net>,
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>
> "David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].cox.net. ..
> > In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] >,
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > > What is the explanation for the lowering of handlebars from the much

> higher
> > > position of the 50's and 60's when they were almost level with the

> saddle ?
> > > What does a rider gain from this ?

> >
> > I assume you mean for racing. If that's what you mean, it's simply that
> > lower bars allow the rider to get a bit more aerodynamic, and thus go a
> > bit faster.
> >

> It should also be noted that *racers* are usually in their 20-30s, have 5-7%
> body fat and ride like 20,000 miles per year. For most everyone else,
> "raising" their handlebars would arguably be more beneficial to help
> alleviate alot of back and neck pains....


Yep. He didn't ask what the downsides of low bars was; just why they
lowered them.

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