Report this school bus driver? - Page 3 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

04-20-2004, 03:14 PM

Last year in Dallas, Larry Schwartz was killed by a school bus driver. She
got so close to him that the right side exterior mirror hit him in the back
of his head. (Then she kept on driving) What you are talking about is a
dangerous situation!

Pat in TX

04-20-2004, 03:35 PM

"Dukester" wrote
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
This is a fairly sustained pattern of inappropriate, aggressive and
dangerous driving. Keep a log for a few days, noting time of day, location
of travel, license plate number and any other identifying information on the
bus,whatever description of the driver you can come up with, and as
objective and complete a description as you can manage of each incident. It
wouldn't hurt to dig through your state's motor vehicle laws and make notes
of the laws the driver has violated in each encounter. After you've logged
three or four incidents, find the driver's supervisor and give him the
information you've collected. If you're not happy with the results you get
from the driver's supervisor, contact the police.

Waiting 30 minutes and avoiding this driver would save you a fair bit of
grief, but it would also leave this clown free to harass and possibly injure
or kill another cyclist. Taking the trouble to document this driver's
behavior and contacting his employer or the police would very likely change
his behavior, and it's possible that word would get around in your community
that harassing bicyclists is not a good thing to do.
--
mark

04-20-2004, 03:35 PM

"Dukester" wrote
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
This is a fairly sustained pattern of inappropriate, aggressive and
dangerous driving. Keep a log for a few days, noting time of day, location
of travel, license plate number and any other identifying information on the
bus,whatever description of the driver you can come up with, and as
objective and complete a description as you can manage of each incident. It
wouldn't hurt to dig through your state's motor vehicle laws and make notes
of the laws the driver has violated in each encounter. After you've logged
three or four incidents, find the driver's supervisor and give him the
information you've collected. If you're not happy with the results you get
from the driver's supervisor, contact the police.

Waiting 30 minutes and avoiding this driver would save you a fair bit of
grief, but it would also leave this clown free to harass and possibly injure
or kill another cyclist. Taking the trouble to document this driver's
behavior and contacting his employer or the police would very likely change
his behavior, and it's possible that word would get around in your community
that harassing bicyclists is not a good thing to do.
--
mark

04-20-2004, 03:35 PM

"Dukester" wrote
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
This is a fairly sustained pattern of inappropriate, aggressive and
dangerous driving. Keep a log for a few days, noting time of day, location
of travel, license plate number and any other identifying information on the
bus,whatever description of the driver you can come up with, and as
objective and complete a description as you can manage of each incident. It
wouldn't hurt to dig through your state's motor vehicle laws and make notes
of the laws the driver has violated in each encounter. After you've logged
three or four incidents, find the driver's supervisor and give him the
information you've collected. If you're not happy with the results you get
from the driver's supervisor, contact the police.

Waiting 30 minutes and avoiding this driver would save you a fair bit of
grief, but it would also leave this clown free to harass and possibly injure
or kill another cyclist. Taking the trouble to document this driver's
behavior and contacting his employer or the police would very likely change
his behavior, and it's possible that word would get around in your community
that harassing bicyclists is not a good thing to do.
--
mark

04-20-2004, 03:35 PM

"Dukester" wrote
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
This is a fairly sustained pattern of inappropriate, aggressive and
dangerous driving. Keep a log for a few days, noting time of day, location
of travel, license plate number and any other identifying information on the
bus,whatever description of the driver you can come up with, and as
objective and complete a description as you can manage of each incident. It
wouldn't hurt to dig through your state's motor vehicle laws and make notes
of the laws the driver has violated in each encounter. After you've logged
three or four incidents, find the driver's supervisor and give him the
information you've collected. If you're not happy with the results you get
from the driver's supervisor, contact the police.

Waiting 30 minutes and avoiding this driver would save you a fair bit of
grief, but it would also leave this clown free to harass and possibly injure
or kill another cyclist. Taking the trouble to document this driver's
behavior and contacting his employer or the police would very likely change
his behavior, and it's possible that word would get around in your community
that harassing bicyclists is not a good thing to do.
--
mark

04-20-2004, 03:35 PM

"Dukester" wrote
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
This is a fairly sustained pattern of inappropriate, aggressive and
dangerous driving. Keep a log for a few days, noting time of day, location
of travel, license plate number and any other identifying information on the
bus,whatever description of the driver you can come up with, and as
objective and complete a description as you can manage of each incident. It
wouldn't hurt to dig through your state's motor vehicle laws and make notes
of the laws the driver has violated in each encounter. After you've logged
three or four incidents, find the driver's supervisor and give him the
information you've collected. If you're not happy with the results you get
from the driver's supervisor, contact the police.

Waiting 30 minutes and avoiding this driver would save you a fair bit of
grief, but it would also leave this clown free to harass and possibly injure
or kill another cyclist. Taking the trouble to document this driver's
behavior and contacting his employer or the police would very likely change
his behavior, and it's possible that word would get around in your community
that harassing bicyclists is not a good thing to do.
--
mark

04-20-2004, 04:21 PM

Please report it, I don't want to read about you as another fatality.

"Dukester" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:smghc.38614$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. ..
> I've been commuting to work now for a month or so from where I live now.
> Where I used to live in town I commuted everyday for years but it was only
a
> couple of miles. Now it's about 10.
>
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
>

04-20-2004, 04:21 PM

Please report it, I don't want to read about you as another fatality.

"Dukester" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:smghc.38614$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. ..
> I've been commuting to work now for a month or so from where I live now.
> Where I used to live in town I commuted everyday for years but it was only
a
> couple of miles. Now it's about 10.
>
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
>

04-20-2004, 04:21 PM

Please report it, I don't want to read about you as another fatality.

"Dukester" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:smghc.38614$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. ..
> I've been commuting to work now for a month or so from where I live now.
> Where I used to live in town I commuted everyday for years but it was only
a
> couple of miles. Now it's about 10.
>
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
>

04-20-2004, 04:21 PM

Please report it, I don't want to read about you as another fatality.

"Dukester" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:smghc.38614$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. ..
> I've been commuting to work now for a month or so from where I live now.
> Where I used to live in town I commuted everyday for years but it was only
a
> couple of miles. Now it's about 10.
>
> I work 6-3pm, so I hit the school bus traffic in the afternoons. My route
> home takes me on a rural state road with little to no shoulder. Not heavy
> traffic, except for the kids and buses. There is one particular bus now
> that I encounter regularly in the afternoons and makes me uncomfortable
when
> I see him in the mirror. My first encounter was when he passed me closely
> on a solid yellow line going up a blind hill. Today he passed me on a
> narrow, albeit short, bridge, again the yellow line, and oncoming traffic
> that went into the shoulder for him! I had taken the lane in both cases.
> One day last week he followed me closely, gunning the engine over & over,
> although why he didn't pass there I don't know; the road is the same width
> in it's entirety. All times he passes at a high rate of speed and very
> close, never more than an arm's length, if that. Maybe it's nothing, but
no
> other traffic has rattled me so.
>
> So should I call & make a complaint and probably be written off as a quack
> biker? The only reason I hesitate is because this is the route I ride
every
> day! I don't want a bus driver in a worse mood breathing down my neck
from
> here on out. Or should I just wait 30 minutes and avoid him altogether?
>
> Side note; this particular road is designated by the state with money
> allocated as a pathways corridor with a bike lane, so it is not an unusal
> place for cyclists.
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Duke
>
>