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Old 04-26-2004, 03:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
Dan Stumpus
 
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Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

I'm a runner (brother Bob is a mtn bike racer in Aspen), and the question
came up on the rec.running list:

On steep hills, Is there a point where a runner of a given talent level will
beat an equally talented biker?

There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)

Is this just because I've only encountered weekenders, and not racers?

Regards,

Dan


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Old 04-26-2004, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

>There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
>been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
>younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)


Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
describe?



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Old 04-26-2004, 03:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

>There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
>been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
>younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)


Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
describe?



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Old 04-26-2004, 03:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

>There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
>been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
>younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)


Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
describe?



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you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
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Old 04-26-2004, 03:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

>There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
>been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
>younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)


Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
describe?



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you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
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Old 04-26-2004, 03:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

>There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've never
>been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats. (when
>younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)


Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
describe?



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you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
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Old 04-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

It's about 2.4 miles up and 1,400 ft of climb (starts at 1000 elevation),
according to my trail book.

--Dan

"Chris Neary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] > wrote in message
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> >There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've

never
> >been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats.

(when
> >younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)

>
> Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
> describe?
>
>
>
> Chris Neary
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
> you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
> loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh



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Old 04-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
Dan Stumpus
 
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

It's about 2.4 miles up and 1,400 ft of climb (starts at 1000 elevation),
according to my trail book.

--Dan

"Chris Neary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] > wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've

never
> >been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats.

(when
> >younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)

>
> Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
> describe?
>
>
>
> Chris Neary
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
> you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
> loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh



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Old 04-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
Dan Stumpus
 
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

It's about 2.4 miles up and 1,400 ft of climb (starts at 1000 elevation),
according to my trail book.

--Dan

"Chris Neary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] > wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've

never
> >been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats.

(when
> >younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)

>
> Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
> describe?
>
>
>
> Chris Neary
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
> you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
> loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh



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Old 04-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
Dan Stumpus
 
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Re: Running vs. Cycling up steep hills?

It's about 2.4 miles up and 1,400 ft of climb (starts at 1000 elevation),
according to my trail book.

--Dan

"Chris Neary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] > wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >There are sections where I run in the San Gabriels above LA where I've

never
> >been passed by a biker, eg, Eaton Canyon bridge to Henninger flats.

(when
> >younger I did it in 24 minutes, when my vo2 max was 76)

>
> Any idea of what the distance and elevation gain are on the road you
> describe?
>
>
>
> Chris Neary
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
> you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
> loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh



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