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Old 05-02-2004, 07:57 PM   #31 (permalink)
Frank Krygowski
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

larry english wrote:

> i made mine, from actual piano wire and plastic mirror material.
> it is taped to the helmet.
> so no eyeglass worries.
> sticks out about 4".


I made mine, too. Same materials, but it hooks to my eyeglasses. It's
usable with any - or no - hat.

Wire has an advantage over the plastic, three prong, ball-jointed
commercial models. It's much less fragile, and once you bend the wire
to give proper focus, it rarely needs refocusing.

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Old 05-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
Mike McGuire
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

Badger_South wrote:
> ...
> Problem is these helmet or eyeglass mounted things can be breakage prone,
> typically with a three-prong attachment, and if one prong breaks, that's
> it. Sometimes the mirror is mounted on a pivot that's a bit delicate, also.
>


I have a pair of sunglasses I use just for cycling. They have wide
robust temples. I bored a couple of holes in the left temple and
attached the mirror with zip ties. Seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Old 05-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
Mike McGuire
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

Badger_South wrote:
> ...
> Problem is these helmet or eyeglass mounted things can be breakage prone,
> typically with a three-prong attachment, and if one prong breaks, that's
> it. Sometimes the mirror is mounted on a pivot that's a bit delicate, also.
>


I have a pair of sunglasses I use just for cycling. They have wide
robust temples. I bored a couple of holes in the left temple and
attached the mirror with zip ties. Seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Old 05-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
Mike McGuire
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

Badger_South wrote:
> ...
> Problem is these helmet or eyeglass mounted things can be breakage prone,
> typically with a three-prong attachment, and if one prong breaks, that's
> it. Sometimes the mirror is mounted on a pivot that's a bit delicate, also.
>


I have a pair of sunglasses I use just for cycling. They have wide
robust temples. I bored a couple of holes in the left temple and
attached the mirror with zip ties. Seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Old 05-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
Mike McGuire
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

Badger_South wrote:
> ...
> Problem is these helmet or eyeglass mounted things can be breakage prone,
> typically with a three-prong attachment, and if one prong breaks, that's
> it. Sometimes the mirror is mounted on a pivot that's a bit delicate, also.
>


I have a pair of sunglasses I use just for cycling. They have wide
robust temples. I bored a couple of holes in the left temple and
attached the mirror with zip ties. Seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Old 05-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #36 (permalink)
Mike McGuire
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

Badger_South wrote:
> ...
> Problem is these helmet or eyeglass mounted things can be breakage prone,
> typically with a three-prong attachment, and if one prong breaks, that's
> it. Sometimes the mirror is mounted on a pivot that's a bit delicate, also.
>


I have a pair of sunglasses I use just for cycling. They have wide
robust temples. I bored a couple of holes in the left temple and
attached the mirror with zip ties. Seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Old 05-03-2004, 10:17 AM   #37 (permalink)
Johnny Two Pedals
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (larry english - no address harvesting) wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> ok, i use a helmet mirror.
>
> i like it.
>
> i understand some of the arguments against using mirrors.
>
> but - here is where i think they really help.
>
> say you are in fairly dense traffic.

Say no more.....Dense traffic is a wonderful place for a mirror...
>
> here is another one.
> you are on a quiet road.
> you are fairly far from the right, maybe even near the center of the
> lane.
> there are no cars.
> you know there are no cars.
> periodic scans behind, using the mirror, reinforce this
> fact for you.

Again, a wonderful use for the mirror....

I really do not understand the uproar about mirror use...

Years ago when I raced no "serious" rider would be caught within 15
feet of a mirror (unless shaving their legs)...only tourists and freds
hung glass off thier helmets. But then again, in those days, no
serious rider wore a helmet (unless it was a Cinelli hairnet), used
clinchers, index shifted, or wore poly-anything.

However, these days, I really like my mirror (a stick-on Cycle Aware
Reflex). Years of training still allows me to look around when
needed, but having the mirror in traffic gives one more data input.
It sort of negates the loss or distortion of hearing caused by helmet
wind noise. All that air cooling my noggin creates enough noise to
somewhat mask the sound of approaching cars.

Just another lightweght weapon in my survival arsenal....
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Old 05-03-2004, 10:17 AM   #38 (permalink)
Johnny Two Pedals
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (larry english - no address harvesting) wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> ok, i use a helmet mirror.
>
> i like it.
>
> i understand some of the arguments against using mirrors.
>
> but - here is where i think they really help.
>
> say you are in fairly dense traffic.

Say no more.....Dense traffic is a wonderful place for a mirror...
>
> here is another one.
> you are on a quiet road.
> you are fairly far from the right, maybe even near the center of the
> lane.
> there are no cars.
> you know there are no cars.
> periodic scans behind, using the mirror, reinforce this
> fact for you.

Again, a wonderful use for the mirror....

I really do not understand the uproar about mirror use...

Years ago when I raced no "serious" rider would be caught within 15
feet of a mirror (unless shaving their legs)...only tourists and freds
hung glass off thier helmets. But then again, in those days, no
serious rider wore a helmet (unless it was a Cinelli hairnet), used
clinchers, index shifted, or wore poly-anything.

However, these days, I really like my mirror (a stick-on Cycle Aware
Reflex). Years of training still allows me to look around when
needed, but having the mirror in traffic gives one more data input.
It sort of negates the loss or distortion of hearing caused by helmet
wind noise. All that air cooling my noggin creates enough noise to
somewhat mask the sound of approaching cars.

Just another lightweght weapon in my survival arsenal....
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Old 05-03-2004, 10:17 AM   #39 (permalink)
Johnny Two Pedals
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (larry english - no address harvesting) wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> ok, i use a helmet mirror.
>
> i like it.
>
> i understand some of the arguments against using mirrors.
>
> but - here is where i think they really help.
>
> say you are in fairly dense traffic.

Say no more.....Dense traffic is a wonderful place for a mirror...
>
> here is another one.
> you are on a quiet road.
> you are fairly far from the right, maybe even near the center of the
> lane.
> there are no cars.
> you know there are no cars.
> periodic scans behind, using the mirror, reinforce this
> fact for you.

Again, a wonderful use for the mirror....

I really do not understand the uproar about mirror use...

Years ago when I raced no "serious" rider would be caught within 15
feet of a mirror (unless shaving their legs)...only tourists and freds
hung glass off thier helmets. But then again, in those days, no
serious rider wore a helmet (unless it was a Cinelli hairnet), used
clinchers, index shifted, or wore poly-anything.

However, these days, I really like my mirror (a stick-on Cycle Aware
Reflex). Years of training still allows me to look around when
needed, but having the mirror in traffic gives one more data input.
It sort of negates the loss or distortion of hearing caused by helmet
wind noise. All that air cooling my noggin creates enough noise to
somewhat mask the sound of approaching cars.

Just another lightweght weapon in my survival arsenal....
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Old 05-03-2004, 10:17 AM   #40 (permalink)
Johnny Two Pedals
 
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Re: legitimate use for mirrors.. consider this

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (larry english - no address harvesting) wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> ok, i use a helmet mirror.
>
> i like it.
>
> i understand some of the arguments against using mirrors.
>
> but - here is where i think they really help.
>
> say you are in fairly dense traffic.

Say no more.....Dense traffic is a wonderful place for a mirror...
>
> here is another one.
> you are on a quiet road.
> you are fairly far from the right, maybe even near the center of the
> lane.
> there are no cars.
> you know there are no cars.
> periodic scans behind, using the mirror, reinforce this
> fact for you.

Again, a wonderful use for the mirror....

I really do not understand the uproar about mirror use...

Years ago when I raced no "serious" rider would be caught within 15
feet of a mirror (unless shaving their legs)...only tourists and freds
hung glass off thier helmets. But then again, in those days, no
serious rider wore a helmet (unless it was a Cinelli hairnet), used
clinchers, index shifted, or wore poly-anything.

However, these days, I really like my mirror (a stick-on Cycle Aware
Reflex). Years of training still allows me to look around when
needed, but having the mirror in traffic gives one more data input.
It sort of negates the loss or distortion of hearing caused by helmet
wind noise. All that air cooling my noggin creates enough noise to
somewhat mask the sound of approaching cars.

Just another lightweght weapon in my survival arsenal....
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