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Old 05-05-2004, 04:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
Max
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ron Hardin <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Hauling 160 pounds of softener salt in either makes you aware that
> physics rules. The slightest upgrade slows you to a crawl. It's
> not a matter of drag but of hill magnification.


In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
for a few seconds and then much easier again.

This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!

..max

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Old 05-05-2004, 05:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
Ron Hardin
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
> mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
> surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
> for a few seconds and then much easier again.
>
> This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
> that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
> i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!


It's the missing limb effect. You notice some resistance that's odd, say
after the hitch spring expands to accomodate a pedal thrush instead of
remaining rigid. Your sensors detect additional drag from its contracting again
a tiny bit later, and you infer the presence of an extra load. That inference
lingers long after the load is gone.

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Old 05-05-2004, 05:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
Ron Hardin
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
> mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
> surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
> for a few seconds and then much easier again.
>
> This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
> that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
> i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!


It's the missing limb effect. You notice some resistance that's odd, say
after the hitch spring expands to accomodate a pedal thrush instead of
remaining rigid. Your sensors detect additional drag from its contracting again
a tiny bit later, and you infer the presence of an extra load. That inference
lingers long after the load is gone.

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Ron Hardin
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
Ron Hardin
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
> mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
> surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
> for a few seconds and then much easier again.
>
> This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
> that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
> i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!


It's the missing limb effect. You notice some resistance that's odd, say
after the hitch spring expands to accomodate a pedal thrush instead of
remaining rigid. Your sensors detect additional drag from its contracting again
a tiny bit later, and you infer the presence of an extra load. That inference
lingers long after the load is gone.

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Old 05-05-2004, 05:03 AM   #25 (permalink)
Ron Hardin
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
> mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
> surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
> for a few seconds and then much easier again.
>
> This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
> that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
> i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!


It's the missing limb effect. You notice some resistance that's odd, say
after the hitch spring expands to accomodate a pedal thrush instead of
remaining rigid. Your sensors detect additional drag from its contracting again
a tiny bit later, and you infer the presence of an extra load. That inference
lingers long after the load is gone.

--
Ron Hardin
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Old 05-05-2004, 05:03 AM   #26 (permalink)
Ron Hardin
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> In addition to the hill magnifier, which around here (illinois) doesn't
> mean all that much, i noticed some kind of long period impedance
> surging; the bike would become very noticeably more difficult to pedal
> for a few seconds and then much easier again.
>
> This phenomenom seemed more noticeable at higher speeds. I'm guessing
> that the trailer wasn't in perfect longitudinal tracking alignment, but
> i dunno. It definitely imporved my workout!


It's the missing limb effect. You notice some resistance that's odd, say
after the hitch spring expands to accomodate a pedal thrush instead of
remaining rigid. Your sensors detect additional drag from its contracting again
a tiny bit later, and you infer the presence of an extra load. That inference
lingers long after the load is gone.

--
Ron Hardin
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Old 05-05-2004, 09:22 AM   #27 (permalink)
Brunswick_kate
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> This is not earthshaking. It's not even all that impressive, but ...
> Today i hooked up my thrift store Burley trailer and headed off to my
> grocer, not far, maybe two or three miles. I've always used a backpack
> for trips before.



Not only impressive but exceedingly cool as well. I made my firest fora
to ghe gorcers last week. I haven't a bike trailer so I loaded up th
old steed with ever form of cargo carrying device i owned and we set of
at brisk pace

The great thing about groceries and bike transport is that you reall
think about what you are buying, do you really need it and is it wort
the space in the panniers to bring home. I found myself making decision
on nutritional value for the volume

Nevertheless, I managed to bring home 55 lbs which amazed me when
stacked it all on the scales at home. Like you said, another car tri
now nullified. I can do the groceries on the bike thing for mos
occasions

I'm thinking about getting a trailer this fall or getting one of thos
cargo bike attachments

in any event, congrats on the experiment


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Old 05-05-2004, 09:22 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> This is not earthshaking. It's not even all that impressive, but ...
> Today i hooked up my thrift store Burley trailer and headed off to my
> grocer, not far, maybe two or three miles. I've always used a backpack
> for trips before.



Not only impressive but exceedingly cool as well. I made my firest fora
to ghe gorcers last week. I haven't a bike trailer so I loaded up th
old steed with ever form of cargo carrying device i owned and we set of
at brisk pace

The great thing about groceries and bike transport is that you reall
think about what you are buying, do you really need it and is it wort
the space in the panniers to bring home. I found myself making decision
on nutritional value for the volume

Nevertheless, I managed to bring home 55 lbs which amazed me when
stacked it all on the scales at home. Like you said, another car tri
now nullified. I can do the groceries on the bike thing for mos
occasions

I'm thinking about getting a trailer this fall or getting one of thos
cargo bike attachments

in any event, congrats on the experiment


-


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Old 05-05-2004, 09:22 AM   #29 (permalink)
Brunswick_kate
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> This is not earthshaking. It's not even all that impressive, but ...
> Today i hooked up my thrift store Burley trailer and headed off to my
> grocer, not far, maybe two or three miles. I've always used a backpack
> for trips before.



Not only impressive but exceedingly cool as well. I made my firest fora
to ghe gorcers last week. I haven't a bike trailer so I loaded up th
old steed with ever form of cargo carrying device i owned and we set of
at brisk pace

The great thing about groceries and bike transport is that you reall
think about what you are buying, do you really need it and is it wort
the space in the panniers to bring home. I found myself making decision
on nutritional value for the volume

Nevertheless, I managed to bring home 55 lbs which amazed me when
stacked it all on the scales at home. Like you said, another car tri
now nullified. I can do the groceries on the bike thing for mos
occasions

I'm thinking about getting a trailer this fall or getting one of thos
cargo bike attachments

in any event, congrats on the experiment


-


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Old 05-05-2004, 09:22 AM   #30 (permalink)
Brunswick_kate
 
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Re: my first time using the trailer for groceries

Max wrote:
> This is not earthshaking. It's not even all that impressive, but ...
> Today i hooked up my thrift store Burley trailer and headed off to my
> grocer, not far, maybe two or three miles. I've always used a backpack
> for trips before.



Not only impressive but exceedingly cool as well. I made my firest fora
to ghe gorcers last week. I haven't a bike trailer so I loaded up th
old steed with ever form of cargo carrying device i owned and we set of
at brisk pace

The great thing about groceries and bike transport is that you reall
think about what you are buying, do you really need it and is it wort
the space in the panniers to bring home. I found myself making decision
on nutritional value for the volume

Nevertheless, I managed to bring home 55 lbs which amazed me when
stacked it all on the scales at home. Like you said, another car tri
now nullified. I can do the groceries on the bike thing for mos
occasions

I'm thinking about getting a trailer this fall or getting one of thos
cargo bike attachments

in any event, congrats on the experiment


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