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05-11-2004, 06:28 PM

It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good thing.
Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering right?
And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact, no?
No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due to low
carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).

For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with coffee.

"jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
>
>

05-11-2004, 06:50 PM

hmmm....can't say I disagree with you since I really don't know the answer
for sure, but I know that I have recently read in textbooks that carbo
loading helps store glycogen in muscles, and that for prolonged efforts, if
your muscles run out of glycogen, cramping etc. will occur...
I too am interested to hear what others here do..

"carbo_jim" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:HZfoc.2660$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthlin k.net...
> It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
> revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
> othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good
thing.
> Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering
right?
> And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact,
no?
> No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due
to low
> carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).
>
> For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with
coffee.
>
> "jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
> >
> >
>
>

05-11-2004, 06:50 PM

hmmm....can't say I disagree with you since I really don't know the answer
for sure, but I know that I have recently read in textbooks that carbo
loading helps store glycogen in muscles, and that for prolonged efforts, if
your muscles run out of glycogen, cramping etc. will occur...
I too am interested to hear what others here do..

"carbo_jim" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:HZfoc.2660$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthlin k.net...
> It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
> revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
> othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good
thing.
> Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering
right?
> And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact,
no?
> No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due
to low
> carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).
>
> For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with
coffee.
>
> "jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
> >
> >
>
>

05-11-2004, 06:50 PM

hmmm....can't say I disagree with you since I really don't know the answer
for sure, but I know that I have recently read in textbooks that carbo
loading helps store glycogen in muscles, and that for prolonged efforts, if
your muscles run out of glycogen, cramping etc. will occur...
I too am interested to hear what others here do..

"carbo_jim" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:HZfoc.2660$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthlin k.net...
> It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
> revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
> othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good
thing.
> Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering
right?
> And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact,
no?
> No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due
to low
> carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).
>
> For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with
coffee.
>
> "jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
> >
> >
>
>

05-11-2004, 06:50 PM

hmmm....can't say I disagree with you since I really don't know the answer
for sure, but I know that I have recently read in textbooks that carbo
loading helps store glycogen in muscles, and that for prolonged efforts, if
your muscles run out of glycogen, cramping etc. will occur...
I too am interested to hear what others here do..

"carbo_jim" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:HZfoc.2660$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthlin k.net...
> It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
> revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
> othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good
thing.
> Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering
right?
> And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact,
no?
> No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due
to low
> carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).
>
> For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with
coffee.
>
> "jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
> >
> >
>
>

05-11-2004, 06:50 PM

hmmm....can't say I disagree with you since I really don't know the answer
for sure, but I know that I have recently read in textbooks that carbo
loading helps store glycogen in muscles, and that for prolonged efforts, if
your muscles run out of glycogen, cramping etc. will occur...
I too am interested to hear what others here do..

"carbo_jim" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:HZfoc.2660$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].atl.earthlin k.net...
> It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
> revolution. I would encourage you to investigate these lo-carb choices
> othwerwise you are going to be addited to carbs and that's not a good
thing.
> Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering
right?
> And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact,
no?
> No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due
to low
> carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).
>
> For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with
coffee.
>
> "jb" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ICeoc.39427$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > Anyone here do this? What exactly do you eat, and when??
> >
> >
>
>

05-11-2004, 07:09 PM

On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:28:55 GMT, "carbo_jim"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
>revolution.

This propaganda is unfortunately foisted on those whose ignorance
will allow it.

Carbohydrates are a necessary part of a healthy diet. An unhealthy
diet that's missing important parts can cause weight loss, which is
why no-carb or no-[protein+fat+whatever] diets can result in lost
weight. The lost weight does not necessarily mean a healthier body.

>Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering right?

My grandfather bought his food and served on a ship in the navy. He
hunted other ships, and gathered...umm...medals?

Somewhere, pre-civilization, my ancestors did hunt and gather. Of
course, they hunted protein/fat and gathered carbohydrates. This was
many thousands of years ago; since then, and over an
evolutionary-length period, humans of many/most descents have eaten
bread very commonly, maybe even as most of their diet.

I don't think that, 4500 years ago, the Egyptians building pyramids
were having any "carbohydrate poisoning" problems, eating bread
often.

From [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] :
:For the common people of Egypt, cereal foods formed the main
:backbone of their diet from the predynastic period onward.* Even for
:the rich, this staple mean generally consisted of a variety of
:different breads, often with other ingredients mixed in.

Other civilizations also ate bread, prospered, and later descended
to become you and me.

>And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact, no?
>No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due to low
>carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).

Their alleged health was due to their exercise -- they had to run
all day to get their food. They didn't live very long, so their
bodies were younger and probably healthier when they died.

>For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with coffee.

Carbohydrates are the fuel your body uses best. There's no sense in
depriving your body of it's optimum fuel when you're asking it to
provide high output. Of course, more important is experimenting to
find out what works for _you_ -- if you perform and/or feel better
on ham and eggs with coffee, then that's definitely what you should
have before a race. The best way to find out is to experiment.

All this talk about food is making me hungry. Gimme a cheeseburger,
with the bun!
--
Rick Onanian

05-11-2004, 07:09 PM

On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:28:55 GMT, "carbo_jim"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
>revolution.

This propaganda is unfortunately foisted on those whose ignorance
will allow it.

Carbohydrates are a necessary part of a healthy diet. An unhealthy
diet that's missing important parts can cause weight loss, which is
why no-carb or no-[protein+fat+whatever] diets can result in lost
weight. The lost weight does not necessarily mean a healthier body.

>Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering right?

My grandfather bought his food and served on a ship in the navy. He
hunted other ships, and gathered...umm...medals?

Somewhere, pre-civilization, my ancestors did hunt and gather. Of
course, they hunted protein/fat and gathered carbohydrates. This was
many thousands of years ago; since then, and over an
evolutionary-length period, humans of many/most descents have eaten
bread very commonly, maybe even as most of their diet.

I don't think that, 4500 years ago, the Egyptians building pyramids
were having any "carbohydrate poisoning" problems, eating bread
often.

From [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] :
:For the common people of Egypt, cereal foods formed the main
:backbone of their diet from the predynastic period onward.* Even for
:the rich, this staple mean generally consisted of a variety of
:different breads, often with other ingredients mixed in.

Other civilizations also ate bread, prospered, and later descended
to become you and me.

>And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact, no?
>No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due to low
>carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).

Their alleged health was due to their exercise -- they had to run
all day to get their food. They didn't live very long, so their
bodies were younger and probably healthier when they died.

>For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with coffee.

Carbohydrates are the fuel your body uses best. There's no sense in
depriving your body of it's optimum fuel when you're asking it to
provide high output. Of course, more important is experimenting to
find out what works for _you_ -- if you perform and/or feel better
on ham and eggs with coffee, then that's definitely what you should
have before a race. The best way to find out is to experiment.

All this talk about food is making me hungry. Gimme a cheeseburger,
with the bun!
--
Rick Onanian

05-11-2004, 07:09 PM

On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:28:55 GMT, "carbo_jim"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
>revolution.

This propaganda is unfortunately foisted on those whose ignorance
will allow it.

Carbohydrates are a necessary part of a healthy diet. An unhealthy
diet that's missing important parts can cause weight loss, which is
why no-carb or no-[protein+fat+whatever] diets can result in lost
weight. The lost weight does not necessarily mean a healthier body.

>Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering right?

My grandfather bought his food and served on a ship in the navy. He
hunted other ships, and gathered...umm...medals?

Somewhere, pre-civilization, my ancestors did hunt and gather. Of
course, they hunted protein/fat and gathered carbohydrates. This was
many thousands of years ago; since then, and over an
evolutionary-length period, humans of many/most descents have eaten
bread very commonly, maybe even as most of their diet.

I don't think that, 4500 years ago, the Egyptians building pyramids
were having any "carbohydrate poisoning" problems, eating bread
often.

From [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] :
:For the common people of Egypt, cereal foods formed the main
:backbone of their diet from the predynastic period onward.* Even for
:the rich, this staple mean generally consisted of a variety of
:different breads, often with other ingredients mixed in.

Other civilizations also ate bread, prospered, and later descended
to become you and me.

>And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact, no?
>No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due to low
>carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).

Their alleged health was due to their exercise -- they had to run
all day to get their food. They didn't live very long, so their
bodies were younger and probably healthier when they died.

>For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with coffee.

Carbohydrates are the fuel your body uses best. There's no sense in
depriving your body of it's optimum fuel when you're asking it to
provide high output. Of course, more important is experimenting to
find out what works for _you_ -- if you perform and/or feel better
on ham and eggs with coffee, then that's definitely what you should
have before a race. The best way to find out is to experiment.

All this talk about food is making me hungry. Gimme a cheeseburger,
with the bun!
--
Rick Onanian

05-11-2004, 07:09 PM

On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:28:55 GMT, "carbo_jim"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>It is a know fact that carbs are poisonous to humans, hence the atkins
>revolution.

This propaganda is unfortunately foisted on those whose ignorance
will allow it.

Carbohydrates are a necessary part of a healthy diet. An unhealthy
diet that's missing important parts can cause weight loss, which is
why no-carb or no-[protein+fat+whatever] diets can result in lost
weight. The lost weight does not necessarily mean a healthier body.

>Let me put it this way, your grandfather was just hunting and gathering right?

My grandfather bought his food and served on a ship in the navy. He
hunted other ships, and gathered...umm...medals?

Somewhere, pre-civilization, my ancestors did hunt and gather. Of
course, they hunted protein/fat and gathered carbohydrates. This was
many thousands of years ago; since then, and over an
evolutionary-length period, humans of many/most descents have eaten
bread very commonly, maybe even as most of their diet.

I don't think that, 4500 years ago, the Egyptians building pyramids
were having any "carbohydrate poisoning" problems, eating bread
often.

From [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] :
:For the common people of Egypt, cereal foods formed the main
:backbone of their diet from the predynastic period onward.* Even for
:the rich, this staple mean generally consisted of a variety of
:different breads, often with other ingredients mixed in.

Other civilizations also ate bread, prospered, and later descended
to become you and me.

>And as lean as they were, do you think that carbs were a dietary artifact, no?
>No. It is a know proven fact now that the health of the ancients was due to low
>carb hi protein (and yes even some fats).

Their alleged health was due to their exercise -- they had to run
all day to get their food. They didn't live very long, so their
bodies were younger and probably healthier when they died.

>For biking I would encourage a solid breakfast of ham and eggs with coffee.

Carbohydrates are the fuel your body uses best. There's no sense in
depriving your body of it's optimum fuel when you're asking it to
provide high output. Of course, more important is experimenting to
find out what works for _you_ -- if you perform and/or feel better
on ham and eggs with coffee, then that's definitely what you should
have before a race. The best way to find out is to experiment.

All this talk about food is making me hungry. Gimme a cheeseburger,
with the bun!
--
Rick Onanian