Would this work? - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

07-28-2003, 12:17 PM

Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?

____________________etc.
_____________/
/
____/
_____/

That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation
of another ride.

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

07-28-2003, 12:26 PM

Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your 'graph'.

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
> difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
>
>
> ____________________etc.
> _____________/
> /
> ____/
> _____/
>
> That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
> that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
> of another ride.
>
> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
> the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
>
>

07-28-2003, 02:11 PM

I guess that means no. But really, I think he wants some sort of scale
represented, both horizontally (miles) and vertically (feet).

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> >>>Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your
> 'graph'.<<<
>
> What do you mean?
>
>
>

07-28-2003, 03:55 PM

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines
> on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

Are you talking about elevation profiles? Any topo map software will
generate these if you want. The map kiosks at some sporting goods/outdoor
stores probably will generate elevation profiles also.

RFM
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07-29-2003, 07:45 AM

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:34:38 GMT, "Doug Purdy" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Which means it wouldn't work. I loved the camera angle on the Tourwhen Tyler
>Hamilton won the mountain stage. They made it look like the riders were
>going up a 60 degree slope. I suspect in reallife the rise would be tiny
>compared to the run and the graph would have to be huge to see any up/down.
>

I loved it too, Doug. Sadly, a quick glance at the road-side
spectators standing at about 30 degrees from the vertical made me
realise that the riders weren't multi-mega-superhuman. They were only
semi-multi-mega-superhuman.

James

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08-23-2003, 05:55 PM

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
> difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?
>
>
> ____________________etc.
> _____________/
> /
> ____/
> _____/
>
> That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
> that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
> of another ride.
>
> The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
> the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?
>
>
Delorme's Topo generates such route profiles:
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09-11-2003, 07:27 PM

8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have to
shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in the
future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.

So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again purchase
anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service or
performance from them.

Cheers
rixz

09-11-2003, 07:59 PM

>"Rixtory" complained about Performance
ordering service.

>She
>stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have to
>shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in the
>future - She said fine, they are just as slow.

Nashbar is owned by Performance

Jim

09-11-2003, 08:33 PM

I've ordered stuff from them and it's always been fine. Of course, she had
no right to be rude to you - maybe she was having a bad day.

- M

"Rixtory" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> 8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
> telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
> seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
> shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
> nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
> stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have
to
> shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in
the
> future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.
>
> So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again
purchase
> anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
> Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service
or
> performance from them.
>
> Cheers
> rixz
>
>

09-11-2003, 08:46 PM

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:27:39 -0400, Rixtory <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again
> purchase
> anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
> Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service
> or performance from them.

Wow. I can't imagine any company allowing
somebody like that to stay on, unless they
didn't know that they HAD somebody like that.

You should try calling back and speak to a
manager; let them know about your experience.
While I've never dealt with Performance, I'd
wager that they'd try to do something to make
it up to you; and further, they would
certainly want to do something about that bad
employee. When I had a problem with Nashbar,
they were eager to satisfy me, like most
businesses are to dissatisfied customers.

If nobody ever tells them, then they may
never know.

If customers would tell managers when they
have had bad service -- or good service! --
then those businesses could serve their
customers that much better.

> Cheers
> rixz
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Rick Onanian