3000 miles in 10 months... so Why am I still fat? - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

05-18-2004, 08:16 PM

The story thus far....

12 years ago - single, 6'3", 180lbs., hair, and competing in citizens class
triathlons.

Fast forward to last July... Married, two kids, mortgage, no hair,
sedentary, 279lbs.

Sick of that fat man in the mirror, I bought some XXL cycling clothes,
dusted off and tuned up my old Trek, and started riding again. Now 10
months and close to 3000 miles later... I still weigh 274! I mean... come
on! 3000 miles for 5 pounds?!

My fitness level has increased tremendously. I use to struggle on 10 mile
rides. Now I do at least 3-4 weekday rides of 15-30 miles each and one
weekend ride for 50-70 miles - all solo. My computer puts my average speed
for these rides between 16-18mph depending upon the particular ups&downs of
the ride. My HRM says my average rate is usually right about 75% of max
(although that can vary, usually on the high side, when the ride has
climbing). I feel lean and mean while I ride, but when I get home I wonder
who that fat guy in the mirror is!

I don't diet per se, but I do eat sensibly. The days that I've tracked my
caloric intake it's usually right between 2500 - 3000. One friend who is a
"wellness" expert suggests I'm not eating *ENOUGH*. Although she readily
admits she doesn't specialize in athletes ("slovenly couch potato" is how
she describes her typical client), she says that with my activity level my
BMR is 5300... as she explained it that's the number of calories needed to
just maintain my weight! Therefore she thinks my body thinks it's being
starved and refuses to let go of the fat. She thinks by eating MORE the
body will move away from this starvation reflex and start shedding pounds.
She also suggested riding easy first thing in the morning BEFORE breakfast
so the body has to switch to fat because the glycogen stores will be low
(sound like a recipe for the BONK to me).

Well, I tried to eat 4000 calories today and about died! I felt horrible,
stuffed, tired, etc. I tried riding with just water (no sport drink), and
found myself craving sugar after the ride.

Any experts lurking out there that would like to comment? Are there any
coaching services online that could help customize my training to help me
lose weight? I can't afford to hire a coach.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

05-18-2004, 08:43 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>

No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
shape, getting better. A nice comeback.

Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
on a different look.

There was a recent thread in here on 'The Big Fat Con Story' -Mike
Kruger- May 11- you can probably find it in google if it is off your
server. The first paragraph-

"The Guardian has an excerpt from a new book by Paul Campos, "The
Obesity
Myth". The excerpt is titled "The big fat con story."
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "

You might look over that article.

I'll take being healthy over being slim if I can't have both.

05-18-2004, 08:43 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>

No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
shape, getting better. A nice comeback.

Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
on a different look.

There was a recent thread in here on 'The Big Fat Con Story' -Mike
Kruger- May 11- you can probably find it in google if it is off your
server. The first paragraph-

"The Guardian has an excerpt from a new book by Paul Campos, "The
Obesity
Myth". The excerpt is titled "The big fat con story."
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "

You might look over that article.

I'll take being healthy over being slim if I can't have both.

05-18-2004, 08:43 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>

No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
shape, getting better. A nice comeback.

Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
on a different look.

There was a recent thread in here on 'The Big Fat Con Story' -Mike
Kruger- May 11- you can probably find it in google if it is off your
server. The first paragraph-

"The Guardian has an excerpt from a new book by Paul Campos, "The
Obesity
Myth". The excerpt is titled "The big fat con story."
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "

You might look over that article.

I'll take being healthy over being slim if I can't have both.

05-18-2004, 08:43 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>

No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
shape, getting better. A nice comeback.

Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
on a different look.

There was a recent thread in here on 'The Big Fat Con Story' -Mike
Kruger- May 11- you can probably find it in google if it is off your
server. The first paragraph-

"The Guardian has an excerpt from a new book by Paul Campos, "The
Obesity
Myth". The excerpt is titled "The big fat con story."
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "

You might look over that article.

I'll take being healthy over being slim if I can't have both.

05-18-2004, 08:43 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>

No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
shape, getting better. A nice comeback.

Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
on a different look.

There was a recent thread in here on 'The Big Fat Con Story' -Mike
Kruger- May 11- you can probably find it in google if it is off your
server. The first paragraph-

"The Guardian has an excerpt from a new book by Paul Campos, "The
Obesity
Myth". The excerpt is titled "The big fat con story."
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] "

You might look over that article.

I'll take being healthy over being slim if I can't have both.

05-18-2004, 09:00 PM

"Dan Daniel" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
>
> No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
> shape, getting better. A nice comeback.
>
> Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
> don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
> on a different look.

No, I haven't changed shape. I should have mentioned that I carry almost
all the weight around my waist. Personally, I think I'm rather oddly shaped.
Chest and butt look normal... just a big fat gut in front. I've thought
about the muscle-for-fat theory, but my waistline hasn't changed, and my
clothes don't fit any differently. That's why I'm pretty sure my body just
doesn't touch it's fat stores.

I've read the thread about the fat fraud, but I am fat. I've got this big
inner tube around my middle that interferes with getting into a nice aero
position, puts unnecessary stress on my butt in the saddle (the biggest
reason I don't ride longer), and I'm scared to even think about what I could
do on the climbs if it were gone.

05-18-2004, 09:00 PM

"Dan Daniel" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
>
> No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
> shape, getting better. A nice comeback.
>
> Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
> don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
> on a different look.

No, I haven't changed shape. I should have mentioned that I carry almost
all the weight around my waist. Personally, I think I'm rather oddly shaped.
Chest and butt look normal... just a big fat gut in front. I've thought
about the muscle-for-fat theory, but my waistline hasn't changed, and my
clothes don't fit any differently. That's why I'm pretty sure my body just
doesn't touch it's fat stores.

I've read the thread about the fat fraud, but I am fat. I've got this big
inner tube around my middle that interferes with getting into a nice aero
position, puts unnecessary stress on my butt in the saddle (the biggest
reason I don't ride longer), and I'm scared to even think about what I could
do on the climbs if it were gone.

05-18-2004, 09:00 PM

"Dan Daniel" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
>
> No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
> shape, getting better. A nice comeback.
>
> Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
> don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
> on a different look.

No, I haven't changed shape. I should have mentioned that I carry almost
all the weight around my waist. Personally, I think I'm rather oddly shaped.
Chest and butt look normal... just a big fat gut in front. I've thought
about the muscle-for-fat theory, but my waistline hasn't changed, and my
clothes don't fit any differently. That's why I'm pretty sure my body just
doesn't touch it's fat stores.

I've read the thread about the fat fraud, but I am fat. I've got this big
inner tube around my middle that interferes with getting into a nice aero
position, puts unnecessary stress on my butt in the saddle (the biggest
reason I don't ride longer), and I'm scared to even think about what I could
do on the climbs if it were gone.

05-18-2004, 09:00 PM

"Dan Daniel" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:16:03 -0600, "Doug Cook"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >
>
> No answers, but a congratulations! You sound like you are in good
> shape, getting better. A nice comeback.
>
> Do you still look the same? Muscle is denser than fat, so people often
> don't lose weight as they shift from fat to muscle, but the body takes
> on a different look.

No, I haven't changed shape. I should have mentioned that I carry almost
all the weight around my waist. Personally, I think I'm rather oddly shaped.
Chest and butt look normal... just a big fat gut in front. I've thought
about the muscle-for-fat theory, but my waistline hasn't changed, and my
clothes don't fit any differently. That's why I'm pretty sure my body just
doesn't touch it's fat stores.

I've read the thread about the fat fraud, but I am fat. I've got this big
inner tube around my middle that interferes with getting into a nice aero
position, puts unnecessary stress on my butt in the saddle (the biggest
reason I don't ride longer), and I'm scared to even think about what I could
do on the climbs if it were gone.