OP Update - 3000 miles in 10 months... so Why am I still fat?

05-20-2004, 08:43 PM

I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Here are some generalized opinions culled from those replies and my response
to them.

1. I don't realize how much I'm really eating - Maybe, but I've started
keeping track again of everything that enters my mouth (I've done this
before). In the last two days (two typical days to the best of my judgment)
my caloric intake has not exceeded 2700. I'll keep tracking for a week or
two to see if that changes, but I doubt it will. I just can't eat that
much. Maybe I'm binging on the weekends.

2. I'm not burning as much as I think I am on my rides - Maybe, but my
computer is correctly set, and I do wear a HRM. Every calculator I can find
tells me I'm burning at least 6400 calories a week on my rides, and some
estimate it as high as 10,000. I keep a ride dairy, so I know I'm not over
estimating my miles. Remember, I weigh 274.

3. I have a diabetic condition that is preventing me from losing weight -
This worried me. My family does have a history of Type II when they get old
and fat, but I have had none of the symptoms. But I did get a HbA1c test.
4.7%. 7% is considered threshold level for some kind of diabetic disorder.

So... after 170 posts (for which I'm grateful, don't get me wrong), I'm back
to beginning. I guess I'll go see a medical pro. Get all the offiicial
tests on the treadmill and all that. Who do I see? A sports physiologist?

Thanks

05-20-2004, 10:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:47 -0600, "Doug Cook" <dougconsult@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
>48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
>role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
>spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Many ppl spent time trying to help you and this seems like a butt-head
thing to say.

You have not spent even one iota of energy to actually input any data for
the kind bikers who type very fast and have a wealth of knowledge and
experience and who have had their lives transformed by what we have tried
to offer you - and not just 'do this do that' comments.

Have you said what kind of food you eat? no.

Have you said when you eat? no.

So you're on your own bucko. It's -all- about the diet; first. Hypothyroid?
Unlikely. Insulin resistance - very likely. Pancreatic (benign?) tumor? who
knows.

Upshot? One - quit stuffing your fat face with pasta and doughnuts, and go
on a couple fluid fasts. Two - go see a doctor and let him **** you up -
b/c the medical profession spends approximately ONE freakin' hour on
nutrition in first year med-school. And Dietitions? They're complete
morons, who have never dieted, never thought for themselves. I know I
worked with them every day; I'm a pathologist (non-MD), and have 33 years
in the field. Three - read the literature suggested to you.

Best,
-B

05-20-2004, 10:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:47 -0600, "Doug Cook" <dougconsult@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
>48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
>role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
>spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Many ppl spent time trying to help you and this seems like a butt-head
thing to say.

You have not spent even one iota of energy to actually input any data for
the kind bikers who type very fast and have a wealth of knowledge and
experience and who have had their lives transformed by what we have tried
to offer you - and not just 'do this do that' comments.

Have you said what kind of food you eat? no.

Have you said when you eat? no.

So you're on your own bucko. It's -all- about the diet; first. Hypothyroid?
Unlikely. Insulin resistance - very likely. Pancreatic (benign?) tumor? who
knows.

Upshot? One - quit stuffing your fat face with pasta and doughnuts, and go
on a couple fluid fasts. Two - go see a doctor and let him **** you up -
b/c the medical profession spends approximately ONE freakin' hour on
nutrition in first year med-school. And Dietitions? They're complete
morons, who have never dieted, never thought for themselves. I know I
worked with them every day; I'm a pathologist (non-MD), and have 33 years
in the field. Three - read the literature suggested to you.

Best,
-B

05-20-2004, 10:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:47 -0600, "Doug Cook" <dougconsult@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
>48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
>role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
>spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Many ppl spent time trying to help you and this seems like a butt-head
thing to say.

You have not spent even one iota of energy to actually input any data for
the kind bikers who type very fast and have a wealth of knowledge and
experience and who have had their lives transformed by what we have tried
to offer you - and not just 'do this do that' comments.

Have you said what kind of food you eat? no.

Have you said when you eat? no.

So you're on your own bucko. It's -all- about the diet; first. Hypothyroid?
Unlikely. Insulin resistance - very likely. Pancreatic (benign?) tumor? who
knows.

Upshot? One - quit stuffing your fat face with pasta and doughnuts, and go
on a couple fluid fasts. Two - go see a doctor and let him **** you up -
b/c the medical profession spends approximately ONE freakin' hour on
nutrition in first year med-school. And Dietitions? They're complete
morons, who have never dieted, never thought for themselves. I know I
worked with them every day; I'm a pathologist (non-MD), and have 33 years
in the field. Three - read the literature suggested to you.

Best,
-B

05-20-2004, 10:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:47 -0600, "Doug Cook" <dougconsult@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
>48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
>role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
>spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Many ppl spent time trying to help you and this seems like a butt-head
thing to say.

You have not spent even one iota of energy to actually input any data for
the kind bikers who type very fast and have a wealth of knowledge and
experience and who have had their lives transformed by what we have tried
to offer you - and not just 'do this do that' comments.

Have you said what kind of food you eat? no.

Have you said when you eat? no.

So you're on your own bucko. It's -all- about the diet; first. Hypothyroid?
Unlikely. Insulin resistance - very likely. Pancreatic (benign?) tumor? who
knows.

Upshot? One - quit stuffing your fat face with pasta and doughnuts, and go
on a couple fluid fasts. Two - go see a doctor and let him **** you up -
b/c the medical profession spends approximately ONE freakin' hour on
nutrition in first year med-school. And Dietitions? They're complete
morons, who have never dieted, never thought for themselves. I know I
worked with them every day; I'm a pathologist (non-MD), and have 33 years
in the field. Three - read the literature suggested to you.

Best,
-B

05-20-2004, 10:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:43:47 -0600, "Doug Cook" <dougconsult@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
>48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
>role of religion in politics or something. Or maybe you all should be
>spending more time on your bikes and less in front of the computer!

Many ppl spent time trying to help you and this seems like a butt-head
thing to say.

You have not spent even one iota of energy to actually input any data for
the kind bikers who type very fast and have a wealth of knowledge and
experience and who have had their lives transformed by what we have tried
to offer you - and not just 'do this do that' comments.

Have you said what kind of food you eat? no.

Have you said when you eat? no.

So you're on your own bucko. It's -all- about the diet; first. Hypothyroid?
Unlikely. Insulin resistance - very likely. Pancreatic (benign?) tumor? who
knows.

Upshot? One - quit stuffing your fat face with pasta and doughnuts, and go
on a couple fluid fasts. Two - go see a doctor and let him **** you up -
b/c the medical profession spends approximately ONE freakin' hour on
nutrition in first year med-school. And Dietitions? They're complete
morons, who have never dieted, never thought for themselves. I know I
worked with them every day; I'm a pathologist (non-MD), and have 33 years
in the field. Three - read the literature suggested to you.

Best,
-B

05-21-2004, 03:24 AM

"Doug Cook" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
> 48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
> role of religion in politics or something.

Nothing controversial about it. Losing weight is NOT complicated. Fat people
like to think it is, but it isn't. I'll say this again---if you burn more
calories than you intake, you will lose weight. Period. The body is kinda
neat in the way it follows the laws of physics. Yes, you can do all sorts of
tricks, like carbohydrate reduction and such, but it all comes down to
intake vs. output. You weigh 274 pounds, so you need to intake at least 2740
just to maintain. Since you're riding a lot, you have to be eating a lot of
calories somewhere. You're on the right track by monitoring what you eat,
but make sure to keep portion control. Measure your food if you have to. If
you eat 2700 kcal/day and exercise, you will lose weight. Just remember to
keep yourself in calorie debt. Exercise is not an excuse to pig out, until
you get to racer-weight. :-)

05-21-2004, 03:24 AM

"Doug Cook" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
> 48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
> role of religion in politics or something.

Nothing controversial about it. Losing weight is NOT complicated. Fat people
like to think it is, but it isn't. I'll say this again---if you burn more
calories than you intake, you will lose weight. Period. The body is kinda
neat in the way it follows the laws of physics. Yes, you can do all sorts of
tricks, like carbohydrate reduction and such, but it all comes down to
intake vs. output. You weigh 274 pounds, so you need to intake at least 2740
just to maintain. Since you're riding a lot, you have to be eating a lot of
calories somewhere. You're on the right track by monitoring what you eat,
but make sure to keep portion control. Measure your food if you have to. If
you eat 2700 kcal/day and exercise, you will lose weight. Just remember to
keep yourself in calorie debt. Exercise is not an excuse to pig out, until
you get to racer-weight. :-)

05-21-2004, 03:24 AM

"Doug Cook" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
> 48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
> role of religion in politics or something.

Nothing controversial about it. Losing weight is NOT complicated. Fat people
like to think it is, but it isn't. I'll say this again---if you burn more
calories than you intake, you will lose weight. Period. The body is kinda
neat in the way it follows the laws of physics. Yes, you can do all sorts of
tricks, like carbohydrate reduction and such, but it all comes down to
intake vs. output. You weigh 274 pounds, so you need to intake at least 2740
just to maintain. Since you're riding a lot, you have to be eating a lot of
calories somewhere. You're on the right track by monitoring what you eat,
but make sure to keep portion control. Measure your food if you have to. If
you eat 2700 kcal/day and exercise, you will lose weight. Just remember to
keep yourself in calorie debt. Exercise is not an excuse to pig out, until
you get to racer-weight. :-)

05-21-2004, 03:24 AM

"Doug Cook" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> I know I asked for some thoughts, but come on, people! 170 responses in
> 48hrs? Maybe I should have asked a less controversial question like the
> role of religion in politics or something.

Nothing controversial about it. Losing weight is NOT complicated. Fat people
like to think it is, but it isn't. I'll say this again---if you burn more
calories than you intake, you will lose weight. Period. The body is kinda
neat in the way it follows the laws of physics. Yes, you can do all sorts of
tricks, like carbohydrate reduction and such, but it all comes down to
intake vs. output. You weigh 274 pounds, so you need to intake at least 2740
just to maintain. Since you're riding a lot, you have to be eating a lot of
calories somewhere. You're on the right track by monitoring what you eat,
but make sure to keep portion control. Measure your food if you have to. If
you eat 2700 kcal/day and exercise, you will lose weight. Just remember to
keep yourself in calorie debt. Exercise is not an excuse to pig out, until
you get to racer-weight. :-)