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Old 05-23-2004, 01:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
psycholist
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado


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> On Mon, 24 May 2004 06:05:17 +1000, "DRS" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].ihug.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >You want stupidity? A women driver here who killed a cyclist when she

was
> >composing a text message on her mobile phone got away with a suspended
> >sentence! Anyone else would have gone to prison and good riddance but

she
> >didn't because she was young and pretty.
> >

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> >

>
> What can bikers do about this kind of thing? Stiffer penalties may not
> change behavior...
>
> -B
>


Most states are getting pretty dramatic in their treatment of drunk drivers.
I've read that studies in Europe have shown drivers using cell phones are
three times more impaired than the average drunk driver (that's my summary
statement of what I've heard exists in the research out there ... don't hold
me to it). Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
driving. I think people driving while talking on cell phones should be
treated the same as drunk drivers.

I suspect that there will be some cases in the courts before too much longer
where drivers and cell phone companies will be held liable and where studies
such as these will be used to get some large awards from juries. Then the
laws will follow slowly.

Bob C.
P.S. I took this thread in another direction, but lets all have the family
of this poor victim in our thoughts and prayers.


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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
David Reuteler
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> nothing.


hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).

here's the real kicker.

the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
said ..

"i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."

whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
work).

interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.
--
david reuteler
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
David Reuteler
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> nothing.


hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).

here's the real kicker.

the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
said ..

"i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."

whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
work).

interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.
--
david reuteler
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 PM   #24 (permalink)
David Reuteler
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> nothing.


hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).

here's the real kicker.

the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
said ..

"i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."

whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
work).

interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.
--
david reuteler
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
David Reuteler
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> nothing.


hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).

here's the real kicker.

the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
said ..

"i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."

whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
work).

interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.
--
david reuteler
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
David Reuteler
 
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> nothing.


hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).

here's the real kicker.

the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
said ..

"i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."

whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
work).

interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.
--
david reuteler
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:35 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

>Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
>driving.


It's been banned in the UK where you are holding the phone. To be legal, a
hands-free kit is required. Or, if no hands-free kit - vehicle should be
stopped with engine switched off. It's too largely ignored though :-(

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Old 05-23-2004, 01:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

>Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
>driving.


It's been banned in the UK where you are holding the phone. To be legal, a
hands-free kit is required. Or, if no hands-free kit - vehicle should be
stopped with engine switched off. It's too largely ignored though :-(

See

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Old 05-23-2004, 01:35 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

>Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
>driving.


It's been banned in the UK where you are holding the phone. To be legal, a
hands-free kit is required. Or, if no hands-free kit - vehicle should be
stopped with engine switched off. It's too largely ignored though :-(

See

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Old 05-23-2004, 01:35 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Experienced Cyclist Killed in Colorado

>Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
>driving.


It's been banned in the UK where you are holding the phone. To be legal, a
hands-free kit is required. Or, if no hands-free kit - vehicle should be
stopped with engine switched off. It's too largely ignored though :-(

See

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