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05-23-2004, 01:35 PM

>Many European countries have outlawed cell phone use while
>driving.

It's been banned in the UK where you are holding the phone. To be legal, a
hands-free kit is required. Or, if no hands-free kit - vehicle should be
stopped with engine switched off. It's too largely ignored though :-(

See

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05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

"psycholist" wrote:
> I hate that inexperienced
> teenagers are allowed to compound their inexperience by being allowed to
> talk on cell phones while driving. That's just pure stupidity.

I agree completely. And that teenager can pass his/her road test in a Honda
Civic, and then get behind the wheel of a Hummer.

Even more incredible, dashboard TV screens are now available as an option on
some vehicles. At least one fatal accident has been caused by a driver who
was watching a movie while driving! We need laws to ban these kinds of
things, and they need to be enforced.

Art Harris

05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

"psycholist" wrote:
> I hate that inexperienced
> teenagers are allowed to compound their inexperience by being allowed to
> talk on cell phones while driving. That's just pure stupidity.

I agree completely. And that teenager can pass his/her road test in a Honda
Civic, and then get behind the wheel of a Hummer.

Even more incredible, dashboard TV screens are now available as an option on
some vehicles. At least one fatal accident has been caused by a driver who
was watching a movie while driving! We need laws to ban these kinds of
things, and they need to be enforced.

Art Harris

05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

"psycholist" wrote:
> I hate that inexperienced
> teenagers are allowed to compound their inexperience by being allowed to
> talk on cell phones while driving. That's just pure stupidity.

I agree completely. And that teenager can pass his/her road test in a Honda
Civic, and then get behind the wheel of a Hummer.

Even more incredible, dashboard TV screens are now available as an option on
some vehicles. At least one fatal accident has been caused by a driver who
was watching a movie while driving! We need laws to ban these kinds of
things, and they need to be enforced.

Art Harris

05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

"psycholist" wrote:
> I hate that inexperienced
> teenagers are allowed to compound their inexperience by being allowed to
> talk on cell phones while driving. That's just pure stupidity.

I agree completely. And that teenager can pass his/her road test in a Honda
Civic, and then get behind the wheel of a Hummer.

Even more incredible, dashboard TV screens are now available as an option on
some vehicles. At least one fatal accident has been caused by a driver who
was watching a movie while driving! We need laws to ban these kinds of
things, and they need to be enforced.

Art Harris

05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

"psycholist" wrote:
> I hate that inexperienced
> teenagers are allowed to compound their inexperience by being allowed to
> talk on cell phones while driving. That's just pure stupidity.

I agree completely. And that teenager can pass his/her road test in a Honda
Civic, and then get behind the wheel of a Hummer.

Even more incredible, dashboard TV screens are now available as an option on
some vehicles. At least one fatal accident has been caused by a driver who
was watching a movie while driving! We need laws to ban these kinds of
things, and they need to be enforced.

Art Harris

05-23-2004, 02:11 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
>
> psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> > I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> > about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> > called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> > nothing.

Did her insurance pay for your medical stuff and a new bike? Her
insurance company probably told them not to have any contact with you
for fear you'd sue them for something more. I wouldn't care about an
apology from somebody that stupid, but blood or money would be
acceptable if there was enough of it.

> hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
> last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
> and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
> lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
> with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).
>
> here's the real kicker.
>
> the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
> said ..
>
> "i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."
>
> whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
> work).

You mean you didn't turn her in to the cops for hit & run? Damn, you're
a saint.

> interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
> 12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.

And didn't make you sign something? HE was a saint!

--
Cheers,
Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

05-23-2004, 02:11 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
>
> psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> > I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> > about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> > called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> > nothing.

Did her insurance pay for your medical stuff and a new bike? Her
insurance company probably told them not to have any contact with you
for fear you'd sue them for something more. I wouldn't care about an
apology from somebody that stupid, but blood or money would be
acceptable if there was enough of it.

> hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
> last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
> and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
> lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
> with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).
>
> here's the real kicker.
>
> the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
> said ..
>
> "i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."
>
> whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
> work).

You mean you didn't turn her in to the cops for hit & run? Damn, you're
a saint.

> interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
> 12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.

And didn't make you sign something? HE was a saint!

--
Cheers,
Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

05-23-2004, 02:11 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
>
> psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> > I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> > about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> > called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> > nothing.

Did her insurance pay for your medical stuff and a new bike? Her
insurance company probably told them not to have any contact with you
for fear you'd sue them for something more. I wouldn't care about an
apology from somebody that stupid, but blood or money would be
acceptable if there was enough of it.

> hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
> last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
> and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
> lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
> with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).
>
> here's the real kicker.
>
> the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
> said ..
>
> "i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."
>
> whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
> work).

You mean you didn't turn her in to the cops for hit & run? Damn, you're
a saint.

> interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
> 12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.

And didn't make you sign something? HE was a saint!

--
Cheers,
Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

05-23-2004, 02:11 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
>
> psycholist <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> > I got hit and nearly killed by one of those (17 year old inattentive driver)
> > about 18 months ago. It was no fun at all. She never apologized, never
> > called to inquire how I was doing during my hospitalization or rehab,
> > nothing.

Did her insurance pay for your medical stuff and a new bike? Her
insurance company probably told them not to have any contact with you
for fear you'd sue them for something more. I wouldn't care about an
apology from somebody that stupid, but blood or money would be
acceptable if there was enough of it.

> hey, me too (well, sorta, injury not near as bad). 16 1/2 in my case and
> last fall. i got off pretty lucky (went over the back of her car at 22mph)
> and escaped uninjured. she *KEPT* going, parked her car at the best buy
> lot and was going in when a truck driver who saw the whole thing caught up
> with her (gratifyingly, he was screaming at her).
>
> here's the real kicker.
>
> the accident snapped the rear q/r skewer so the bike wasn't rideable. she
> said ..
>
> "i'd like to give ya a ride, but i'm late for school."
>
> whoa. she stuck to that and i walked 3 miles home (this was on the way to
> work).

You mean you didn't turn her in to the cops for hit & run? Damn, you're
a saint.

> interestingly the 40-something lawyer who hit me (in my only other accident
> 12 years earlier) just handed me two $100 bills.

And didn't make you sign something? HE was a saint!

--
Cheers,
Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe