Terry leather saddle durability? - Page 2

05-28-2004, 04:23 PM

"GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Just got a Terry Liberator leather (Italian) saddle from Performance to
> replace a two year old Cloud-9 lycra-covered saddle on which the lycra was
> wearing through.
>
> After one 17 mile ride on the Terry (dry conditions), the leather top on
one
> side was chaffing off (actually the surface coating on the leather was)
over
> a 2 sq. inch area. Looked like what happens to your skin after it has been
> in water a long time and you rub it making the dead top layer chaff off.
> Same thing was happening on the other side on a smaller scale.
>
> I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be more
> durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never done
this.)
> Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical of other
leather
> saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> This crushes my favorable opinion of Terry.

I think you got unlucky. I put over 4K miles on my leather Terry Butterfly
saddle just last year and it's going strong - no rubbed off places at all.
On my new bike I've ridden about 1200 miles on a different Terry Butterfly,
also leather, and same results. Also, my husband rides a leather Terry Fly
and put over 6K miles on last year with no problems.

I'd return your saddle for an exchange - sounds like it is defective.

Good luck!

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat coming off
from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old saddle was
lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as any leather I'm
familiar with...and it lasted two years with the wear-through coming at the
corners, probably exacerbated by lots of sun-exposure (my bike lives on my
bike carrier when not in use with the saddle covered by a plastic bag).

This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners. It
looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean really poor.

--

- GRL

"It's good to want things."

Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,
Visual Basic programmer)
"Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
> > I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be
> > more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never
> > done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical
> > of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover that
can
> wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare those to a
thick
> leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat coming off
from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old saddle was
lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as any leather I'm
familiar with...and it lasted two years with the wear-through coming at the
corners, probably exacerbated by lots of sun-exposure (my bike lives on my
bike carrier when not in use with the saddle covered by a plastic bag).

This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners. It
looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean really poor.

--

- GRL

"It's good to want things."

Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,
Visual Basic programmer)
"Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
> > I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be
> > more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never
> > done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical
> > of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover that
can
> wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare those to a
thick
> leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat coming off
from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old saddle was
lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as any leather I'm
familiar with...and it lasted two years with the wear-through coming at the
corners, probably exacerbated by lots of sun-exposure (my bike lives on my
bike carrier when not in use with the saddle covered by a plastic bag).

This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners. It
looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean really poor.

--

- GRL

"It's good to want things."

Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,
Visual Basic programmer)
"Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
> > I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be
> > more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never
> > done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical
> > of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover that
can
> wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare those to a
thick
> leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat coming off
from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old saddle was
lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as any leather I'm
familiar with...and it lasted two years with the wear-through coming at the
corners, probably exacerbated by lots of sun-exposure (my bike lives on my
bike carrier when not in use with the saddle covered by a plastic bag).

This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners. It
looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean really poor.

--

- GRL

"It's good to want things."

Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,
Visual Basic programmer)
"Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
> > I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be
> > more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never
> > done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical
> > of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover that
can
> wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare those to a
thick
> leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat coming off
from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old saddle was
lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as any leather I'm
familiar with...and it lasted two years with the wear-through coming at the
corners, probably exacerbated by lots of sun-exposure (my bike lives on my
bike carrier when not in use with the saddle covered by a plastic bag).

This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners. It
looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean really poor.

--

- GRL

"It's good to want things."

Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,
Visual Basic programmer)
"Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
> > I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would be
> > more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have never
> > done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is this typical
> > of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who would buy the things?
>
> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover that
can
> wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare those to a
thick
> leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

05-28-2004, 06:37 PM

GRL top-posted:
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> Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist,
> chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
> "Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
>> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
>>> I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would
>>> be more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have
>>> never done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is
>>> this typical of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who
>>> would buy the things?
>>
>> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover
>> that can wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare
>> those to a thick leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

> It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat
> coming off from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old
> saddle was lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as
> any leather I'm familiar with...and it lasted two years with the
> wear-through coming at the corners, probably exacerbated by lots of
> sun-exposure (my bike lives on my bike carrier when not in use with
> the saddle covered by a plastic bag).
>
> This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners.
> It looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean
> really poor.

So take it back.

Bill "problem solved" S.

05-28-2004, 06:37 PM

GRL top-posted:
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> Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist,
> chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
> "Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
>> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
>>> I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would
>>> be more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have
>>> never done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is
>>> this typical of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who
>>> would buy the things?
>>
>> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover
>> that can wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare
>> those to a thick leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

> It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat
> coming off from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old
> saddle was lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as
> any leather I'm familiar with...and it lasted two years with the
> wear-through coming at the corners, probably exacerbated by lots of
> sun-exposure (my bike lives on my bike carrier when not in use with
> the saddle covered by a plastic bag).
>
> This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners.
> It looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean
> really poor.

So take it back.

Bill "problem solved" S.

05-28-2004, 06:37 PM

GRL top-posted:
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> Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist,
> chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
> "Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
>> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
>>> I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would
>>> be more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have
>>> never done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is
>>> this typical of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who
>>> would buy the things?
>>
>> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover
>> that can wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare
>> those to a thick leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

> It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat
> coming off from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old
> saddle was lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as
> any leather I'm familiar with...and it lasted two years with the
> wear-through coming at the corners, probably exacerbated by lots of
> sun-exposure (my bike lives on my bike carrier when not in use with
> the saddle covered by a plastic bag).
>
> This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners.
> It looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean
> really poor.

So take it back.

Bill "problem solved" S.

05-28-2004, 06:37 PM

GRL top-posted:
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> Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist,
> chemist, Visual Basic programmer)
> "Ken" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:Xns94F7AF35D23B9x12@216.251.47.166...
>> "GRL" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:
>>> I was utterly shocked. I bought leather because I thought it would
>>> be more durable. (The leather seats on our 13 year old Toyota have
>>> never done this.) Is this typical of the leather Terry uses? Is
>>> this typical of other leather saddles? It can't be, I hope. Who
>>> would buy the things?
>>
>> How heavy are you? Some bike saddles use a super-thin leather cover
>> that can wear out pretty quickly under a very heavy rider. Compare
>> those to a thick leather saddle like those made by Brooks.

> It's not the leather itself that is wearing. It's the finish coat
> coming off from contact with my cotton shorts. In any case, that old
> saddle was lycra-covered which is nowhere near as tough a material as
> any leather I'm familiar with...and it lasted two years with the
> wear-through coming at the corners, probably exacerbated by lots of
> sun-exposure (my bike lives on my bike carrier when not in use with
> the saddle covered by a plastic bag).
>
> This Terry saddle wear is on the flat surface area, not the corners.
> It looks like the result of really poor leather finishing. I mean
> really poor.

So take it back.

Bill "problem solved" S.