What did I do wrong? re: nutrition? - Page 11 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-07-2004, 08:10 AM

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>>
>> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
>That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.

No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
it. ;-p

-Badger

06-07-2004, 10:09 AM

"curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<pnNwc.8709$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a banana
> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good on
> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of a
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up and
> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
> or so and now feel much better.
>
> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Hi Curt,

I have a pretty high carb diet, not through design or diet, I just
like bread, cookies, you get the idea. Thankfully for me weight is not
an issue!

I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
passes.

It seems to me that you ate sensibly during the ride. I would have
eaten a bit bigger dinner the night before but that is me. As for the
low blood pressure it may come from your blood working on digesting
lots of protien and riding at the same time. That is an unresearched
opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope you find a satisfactory answer amongst the responses.

Andy

06-07-2004, 10:09 AM

"curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<pnNwc.8709$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a banana
> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good on
> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of a
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up and
> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
> or so and now feel much better.
>
> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Hi Curt,

I have a pretty high carb diet, not through design or diet, I just
like bread, cookies, you get the idea. Thankfully for me weight is not
an issue!

I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
passes.

It seems to me that you ate sensibly during the ride. I would have
eaten a bit bigger dinner the night before but that is me. As for the
low blood pressure it may come from your blood working on digesting
lots of protien and riding at the same time. That is an unresearched
opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope you find a satisfactory answer amongst the responses.

Andy

06-07-2004, 10:09 AM

"curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<pnNwc.8709$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a banana
> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good on
> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of a
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up and
> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
> or so and now feel much better.
>
> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Hi Curt,

I have a pretty high carb diet, not through design or diet, I just
like bread, cookies, you get the idea. Thankfully for me weight is not
an issue!

I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
passes.

It seems to me that you ate sensibly during the ride. I would have
eaten a bit bigger dinner the night before but that is me. As for the
low blood pressure it may come from your blood working on digesting
lots of protien and riding at the same time. That is an unresearched
opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope you find a satisfactory answer amongst the responses.

Andy

06-07-2004, 10:09 AM

"curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<pnNwc.8709$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a banana
> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good on
> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of a
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up and
> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
> or so and now feel much better.
>
> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Hi Curt,

I have a pretty high carb diet, not through design or diet, I just
like bread, cookies, you get the idea. Thankfully for me weight is not
an issue!

I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
passes.

It seems to me that you ate sensibly during the ride. I would have
eaten a bit bigger dinner the night before but that is me. As for the
low blood pressure it may come from your blood working on digesting
lots of protien and riding at the same time. That is an unresearched
opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope you find a satisfactory answer amongst the responses.

Andy

06-07-2004, 10:09 AM

"curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<pnNwc.8709$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a banana
> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good on
> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of a
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up and
> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
> or so and now feel much better.
>
> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Hi Curt,

I have a pretty high carb diet, not through design or diet, I just
like bread, cookies, you get the idea. Thankfully for me weight is not
an issue!

I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
passes.

It seems to me that you ate sensibly during the ride. I would have
eaten a bit bigger dinner the night before but that is me. As for the
low blood pressure it may come from your blood working on digesting
lots of protien and riding at the same time. That is an unresearched
opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope you find a satisfactory answer amongst the responses.

Andy

06-07-2004, 01:58 PM

curt wrote:

> Interesting Terry. I can ride 40 or so miles really hard on next to nothing
> in my stomach. For some reason this 75 was too much for me on what I ate.

I guess 40 was still short enough that your glycogen stores were
sufficient. Maybe you've gotten very good at fat metabolism. If you
train for a long time in zone 2 (66-72% of max. heart rate), you
reportedly increase your fat metabolism, which reduces the glycogen
depletion rate when you're working at higher levels.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-07-2004, 01:58 PM

curt wrote:

> Interesting Terry. I can ride 40 or so miles really hard on next to nothing
> in my stomach. For some reason this 75 was too much for me on what I ate.

I guess 40 was still short enough that your glycogen stores were
sufficient. Maybe you've gotten very good at fat metabolism. If you
train for a long time in zone 2 (66-72% of max. heart rate), you
reportedly increase your fat metabolism, which reduces the glycogen
depletion rate when you're working at higher levels.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-07-2004, 01:58 PM

curt wrote:

> Interesting Terry. I can ride 40 or so miles really hard on next to nothing
> in my stomach. For some reason this 75 was too much for me on what I ate.

I guess 40 was still short enough that your glycogen stores were
sufficient. Maybe you've gotten very good at fat metabolism. If you
train for a long time in zone 2 (66-72% of max. heart rate), you
reportedly increase your fat metabolism, which reduces the glycogen
depletion rate when you're working at higher levels.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-07-2004, 01:58 PM

curt wrote:

> Interesting Terry. I can ride 40 or so miles really hard on next to nothing
> in my stomach. For some reason this 75 was too much for me on what I ate.

I guess 40 was still short enough that your glycogen stores were
sufficient. Maybe you've gotten very good at fat metabolism. If you
train for a long time in zone 2 (66-72% of max. heart rate), you
reportedly increase your fat metabolism, which reduces the glycogen
depletion rate when you're working at higher levels.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]