What did I do wrong? re: nutrition? - Page 3

06-06-2004, 06:42 PM

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
<garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:

>"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
>> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather was
>> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
>> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before the
>> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
>banana
>> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start. I
>> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty good
>on
>> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2 of
>a
>> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a sandwich
>> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on this
>> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood up
>and
>> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I ate
>> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an hour
>> or so and now feel much better.
>>
>> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Curt
>>
>
>It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many folks
>think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
>
>On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35 calories
>per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride, and
>your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
>"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode "hard"...when
>you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
>sufficient carbs for days.
>
>I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
>should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace all
>the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but will
>help prevent the bonk.
>
>Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating habits
>before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
>
>GG
>

Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
day before.

No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee with
splenda, then took a nap.

Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.

-Badger
"World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

06-06-2004, 07:21 PM

"Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
>
> >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
was
> >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
the
> >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> >banana
> >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start.
I
> >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
good
> >on
> >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2
of
> >a
> >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
sandwich
> >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
this
> >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
up
> >and
> >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
ate
> >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
hour
> >> or so and now feel much better.
> >>
> >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Curt
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
folks
> >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> >
> >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
calories
> >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
and
> >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
> >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
"hard"...when
> >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> >sufficient carbs for days.
> >
> >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
> >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
all
> >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
will
> >help prevent the bonk.
> >
> >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
habits
> >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> >
> >GG
> >
>
> Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
> a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
> day before.
>
> No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
with
> splenda, then took a nap.
>
> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
> -Badger
> "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was at
a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.

I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough in
me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.

Thanks,
Curt

06-06-2004, 07:21 PM

"Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
>
> >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
was
> >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
the
> >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> >banana
> >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start.
I
> >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
good
> >on
> >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2
of
> >a
> >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
sandwich
> >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
this
> >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
up
> >and
> >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
ate
> >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
hour
> >> or so and now feel much better.
> >>
> >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Curt
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
folks
> >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> >
> >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
calories
> >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
and
> >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
> >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
"hard"...when
> >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> >sufficient carbs for days.
> >
> >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
> >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
all
> >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
will
> >help prevent the bonk.
> >
> >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
habits
> >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> >
> >GG
> >
>
> Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
> a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
> day before.
>
> No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
with
> splenda, then took a nap.
>
> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
> -Badger
> "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was at
a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.

I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough in
me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.

Thanks,
Curt

06-06-2004, 07:21 PM

"Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
>
> >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
was
> >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
the
> >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> >banana
> >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start.
I
> >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
good
> >on
> >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2
of
> >a
> >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
sandwich
> >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
this
> >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
up
> >and
> >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
ate
> >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
hour
> >> or so and now feel much better.
> >>
> >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Curt
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
folks
> >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> >
> >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
calories
> >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
and
> >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
> >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
"hard"...when
> >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> >sufficient carbs for days.
> >
> >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
> >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
all
> >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
will
> >help prevent the bonk.
> >
> >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
habits
> >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> >
> >GG
> >
>
> Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
> a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
> day before.
>
> No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
with
> splenda, then took a nap.
>
> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
> -Badger
> "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was at
a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.

I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough in
me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.

Thanks,
Curt

06-06-2004, 07:21 PM

"Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
>
> >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
was
> >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
the
> >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> >banana
> >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start.
I
> >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
good
> >on
> >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2
of
> >a
> >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
sandwich
> >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
this
> >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
up
> >and
> >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
ate
> >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
hour
> >> or so and now feel much better.
> >>
> >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Curt
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
folks
> >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> >
> >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
calories
> >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
and
> >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
> >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
"hard"...when
> >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> >sufficient carbs for days.
> >
> >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
> >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
all
> >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
will
> >help prevent the bonk.
> >
> >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
habits
> >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> >
> >GG
> >
>
> Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
> a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
> day before.
>
> No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
with
> splenda, then took a nap.
>
> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
> -Badger
> "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was at
a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.

I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough in
me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.

Thanks,
Curt

06-06-2004, 07:21 PM

"Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
>
> >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
was
> >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet pretty
> >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
the
> >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> >banana
> >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride start.
I
> >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
good
> >on
> >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and 1/2
of
> >a
> >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
sandwich
> >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
this
> >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
up
> >and
> >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
ate
> >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
hour
> >> or so and now feel much better.
> >>
> >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get dizzy?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Curt
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
folks
> >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> >
> >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
calories
> >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
and
> >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had been
> >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
"hard"...when
> >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> >sufficient carbs for days.
> >
> >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two, you
> >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
all
> >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
will
> >help prevent the bonk.
> >
> >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
habits
> >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> >
> >GG
> >
>
> Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on a
> a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce the
> day before.
>
> No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
with
> splenda, then took a nap.
>
> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
>
> -Badger
> "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"

Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was at
a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.

I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough in
me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.

Thanks,
Curt

06-06-2004, 09:43 PM

"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:VaRwc.12451$9g6.7948@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
> "Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
> news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> > <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
> was
> > >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet
pretty
> > >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
> the
> > >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> > >banana
> > >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride
start.
> I
> > >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
> good
> > >on
> > >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and
1/2
> of
> > >a
> > >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
> sandwich
> > >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
> this
> > >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
> up
> > >and
> > >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
> ate
> > >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
> hour
> > >> or so and now feel much better.
> > >>
> > >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get
dizzy?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >
> > >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
> folks
> > >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> > >
> > >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
> calories
> > >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
> and
> > >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had
been
> > >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
> "hard"...when
> > >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> > >sufficient carbs for days.
> > >
> > >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two,
you
> > >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
> all
> > >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
> will
> > >help prevent the bonk.
> > >
> > >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
> habits
> > >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> > >
> > >GG
> > >
> >
> > Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on
a
> > a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce
the
> > day before.
> >
> > No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
> with
> > splenda, then took a nap.
> >
> > Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> > -Badger
> > "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"
>
> Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
> whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was
at
> a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.
>
> I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough
in
> me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
>

I think how hard you ride has a lot to do with it. If you're riding at a
pretty easy pace, your body is able to keep up with your energy needs by
converting stored fats. But, at higher intensities and longer efforts, your
body burns mostly stored glycogens (carbs), and has a hard time keeping up
with demand unless you take some more carbs on board during the ride.

GG

06-06-2004, 09:43 PM

"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
> news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> > <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
> was
> > >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet
pretty
> > >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
> the
> > >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> > >banana
> > >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride
start.
> I
> > >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
> good
> > >on
> > >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and
1/2
> of
> > >a
> > >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
> sandwich
> > >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
> this
> > >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
> up
> > >and
> > >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
> ate
> > >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
> hour
> > >> or so and now feel much better.
> > >>
> > >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get
dizzy?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >
> > >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
> folks
> > >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> > >
> > >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
> calories
> > >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
> and
> > >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had
been
> > >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
> "hard"...when
> > >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> > >sufficient carbs for days.
> > >
> > >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two,
you
> > >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
> all
> > >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
> will
> > >help prevent the bonk.
> > >
> > >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
> habits
> > >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> > >
> > >GG
> > >
> >
> > Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on
a
> > a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce
the
> > day before.
> >
> > No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
> with
> > splenda, then took a nap.
> >
> > Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> > -Badger
> > "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"
>
> Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
> whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was
at
> a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.
>
> I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough
in
> me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
>

I think how hard you ride has a lot to do with it. If you're riding at a
pretty easy pace, your body is able to keep up with your energy needs by
converting stored fats. But, at higher intensities and longer efforts, your
body burns mostly stored glycogens (carbs), and has a hard time keeping up
with demand unless you take some more carbs on board during the ride.

GG

06-06-2004, 09:43 PM

"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:VaRwc.12451$9g6.7948@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
> "Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
> news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> > <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
> was
> > >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet
pretty
> > >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
> the
> > >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> > >banana
> > >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride
start.
> I
> > >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
> good
> > >on
> > >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and
1/2
> of
> > >a
> > >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
> sandwich
> > >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
> this
> > >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
> up
> > >and
> > >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
> ate
> > >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
> hour
> > >> or so and now feel much better.
> > >>
> > >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get
dizzy?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >
> > >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
> folks
> > >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> > >
> > >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
> calories
> > >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
> and
> > >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had
been
> > >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
> "hard"...when
> > >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> > >sufficient carbs for days.
> > >
> > >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two,
you
> > >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
> all
> > >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
> will
> > >help prevent the bonk.
> > >
> > >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
> habits
> > >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> > >
> > >GG
> > >
> >
> > Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on
a
> > a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce
the
> > day before.
> >
> > No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
> with
> > splenda, then took a nap.
> >
> > Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> > -Badger
> > "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"
>
> Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
> whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was
at
> a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.
>
> I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough
in
> me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
>

I think how hard you ride has a lot to do with it. If you're riding at a
pretty easy pace, your body is able to keep up with your energy needs by
converting stored fats. But, at higher intensities and longer efforts, your
body burns mostly stored glycogens (carbs), and has a hard time keeping up
with demand unless you take some more carbs on board during the ride.

GG

06-06-2004, 09:43 PM

"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:VaRwc.12451$9g6.7948@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
>
> "Badger_South" <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
> news:ial7c09lp533pgai63bqi1a3qdq2l36p7q@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 18:35:53 -0700, "GaryG"
> > <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >news

nNwc.8709$321.257@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > >> I was on a 75 mile ride today and pushed it pretty hard. The weather
> was
> > >> great and I know I was hydrated. I have been on a low carb diet
pretty
> > >> strict from Tuesday until Saturday night, which was the night before
> the
> > >> ride. I ate sushi that night and a salad. The next morning I ate a
> > >banana
> > >> and piece of chicken sausage and a cookie when I got to the ride
start.
> I
> > >> set out and pretty much pushed from the start. I felt really pretty
> good
> > >on
> > >> the ride. Stopped a few times and ate a total of 1 1/2 bananas and
1/2
> of
> > >a
> > >> peanut butter and jelly sandwich. After the ride I ate 1/2 of a
> sandwich
> > >> and another cookie and some more water. I was only drinking water on
> this
> > >> ride. I felt okay coming home but began to get a bit dizzy. I stood
> up
> > >and
> > >> felt really dizzy for a bit and had to put my head lower for few. I
> ate
> > >> some rice, pasta, fish and some blueberry yogurt and laid down for an
> hour
> > >> or so and now feel much better.
> > >>
> > >> Did I not eat enough? Should I add carb earlier? Why did I get
dizzy?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >
> > >It sounds like a typical low-carb bonk. This is one reason why many
> folks
> > >think that low-carb is inappropriate for the athletically inclined.
> > >
> > >On your ride, you probably burned around 2600 calories (assuming 35
> calories
> > >per mile). But, you only consumed about 500 calories during the ride,
> and
> > >your breakfast was probably only around 400 calories. And, you had
been
> > >"low-carbing" for days prior to the ride. Finally, you rode
> "hard"...when
> > >you do that, your body needs carbs...but, you've not been consuming
> > >sufficient carbs for days.
> > >
> > >I've heard it said that on rides lasting longer than an hour or two,
you
> > >should try to consume around 250 calories per hour. This won't replace
> all
> > >the calories you're burning (unless you're going very, very slow), but
> will
> > >help prevent the bonk.
> > >
> > >Eating carbs and protein post-ride was a good idea...but, your eating
> habits
> > >before and during the ride are a classic case of, "Doh!"
> > >
> > >GG
> > >
> >
> > Pseudo-scientific. More data was needed. I rode 2.4 hours on Saturday on
a
> > a breakfast of one piece of bacon. Had two hamburgers and some lettuce
the
> > day before.
> >
> > No bonk. Rode hard. Got back and drank a diet soda and had some coffee
> with
> > splenda, then took a nap.
> >
> > Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> > -Badger
> > "World's most dangerous City Bike Path Rider"
>
> Thanks for the replies. I to ride up to 40 miles or so and can eat
> whatever. I rode 50 on two eggs and some bacon and a banana, but it was
at
> a slower pace. For some reason this 75 really took it out of me.
>
> I think I will have to eat more food on this type of ride. I had enough
in
> me to finish strong, but after I soon went down hill.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
>

I think how hard you ride has a lot to do with it. If you're riding at a
pretty easy pace, your body is able to keep up with your energy needs by
converting stored fats. But, at higher intensities and longer efforts, your
body burns mostly stored glycogens (carbs), and has a hard time keeping up
with demand unless you take some more carbs on board during the ride.

GG