Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs - Page 4 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-11-2004, 09:50 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:34:30 -0700, Terry Morse <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Badger_South wrote:
>
>> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
>> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
>> something I've been thinking about:
>>
>> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then ride
>> for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then ride
>> final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
>Why not just do an organized, supported ride? They typically have
>rest stops every 1.5-2 hours apart. It's a great place to find out
>about pacing and fueling, and there's sag if you need it. Try a 100k
>to see if you like it. If that was too easy, try a 100-mile.

Well there probably aren't any organized supported rides in my area.

There are weekend group rides, I hear, but never been able to track any of
them down to an actual person. (I'm in Charlottesville, Va).

In addition, I'd want to ride my own pace, and would worry about being
dropped and having that affect the motivation. I realize in an ideal sitch,
your suggest -would- be the way to go. Also the area around here that
people ride these things are probably too hilly.

I'm planning the ride in Va Beach, where it's mostly flat, and doing it on
bike paths. (there's 137 miles of them down there!). It would take a big
stroke of luck to find an organized ride in Va Beach to co-incide with my
attempt, but I'll definitely try to check that out. I'm heading back down
there in about a month. Even if the ride was a 50 miler, I could do that
and then finish up on my own. Great idea...

Thanks TM!

-B

06-11-2004, 10:03 AM

Badger_South wrote:

>
> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
> something I've been thinking about:
>
> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then
> ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then
> ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
> People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks.
> 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a
> "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were
> gonna do it how would you break it up?
>
> I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and
> get the family interested in it to help with that.
>
> I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big
> deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent
> 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that
> once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like
> this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations.
>
> I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light.
> o 5:30-8:30
> o 9:00-11:00
> o 12:-1
> o 2-4pm

It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
the bike.

We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
situation if riders get too sleepy.

The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
the looooong tour...

Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes

06-11-2004, 10:03 AM

Badger_South wrote:

>
> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
> something I've been thinking about:
>
> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then
> ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then
> ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
> People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks.
> 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a
> "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were
> gonna do it how would you break it up?
>
> I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and
> get the family interested in it to help with that.
>
> I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big
> deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent
> 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that
> once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like
> this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations.
>
> I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light.
> o 5:30-8:30
> o 9:00-11:00
> o 12:-1
> o 2-4pm

It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
the bike.

We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
situation if riders get too sleepy.

The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
the looooong tour...

Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes

06-11-2004, 10:03 AM

Badger_South wrote:

>
> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
> something I've been thinking about:
>
> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then
> ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then
> ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
> People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks.
> 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a
> "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were
> gonna do it how would you break it up?
>
> I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and
> get the family interested in it to help with that.
>
> I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big
> deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent
> 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that
> once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like
> this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations.
>
> I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light.
> o 5:30-8:30
> o 9:00-11:00
> o 12:-1
> o 2-4pm

It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
the bike.

We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
situation if riders get too sleepy.

The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
the looooong tour...

Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes

06-11-2004, 10:03 AM

Badger_South wrote:

>
> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
> something I've been thinking about:
>
> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then
> ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then
> ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
> People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks.
> 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a
> "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were
> gonna do it how would you break it up?
>
> I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and
> get the family interested in it to help with that.
>
> I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big
> deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent
> 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that
> once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like
> this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations.
>
> I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light.
> o 5:30-8:30
> o 9:00-11:00
> o 12:-1
> o 2-4pm

It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
the bike.

We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
situation if riders get too sleepy.

The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
the looooong tour...

Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes

06-11-2004, 10:03 AM

Badger_South wrote:

>
> I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of
> 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's
> something I've been thinking about:
>
> Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then
> ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then
> ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2?
>
> People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks.
> 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a
> "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were
> gonna do it how would you break it up?
>
> I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and
> get the family interested in it to help with that.
>
> I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big
> deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent
> 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that
> once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like
> this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations.
>
> I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light.
> o 5:30-8:30
> o 9:00-11:00
> o 12:-1
> o 2-4pm

It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
the bike.

We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
situation if riders get too sleepy.

The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
the looooong tour...

Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes

06-11-2004, 10:21 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:03:33 +0200, Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
>16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
>3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
>to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
>the bike.
>
>We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
>people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
>north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
>situation if riders get too sleepy.
>
>The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
>training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
>more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
>the looooong tour...
>
>Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

Wow. Good luck to you, too. Mine's still in the 'fantasy stage', but I'm
pretty sure I'll try it in the fall when it's cooler.

Uh, you say long training tours are a must? If my mental calculations are
correct, it sounds like your training tour is very short!

I'll have done several rides at ~50% of the total time/distance, and have
already done 1/2 the expected distance on a 45lb broken beater bike.

I can't imagine riding 8 hours on a base of only 1-2 hr as the max ride, or
on 1/10th the total distance! Of course if you've been riding for 10 years,
and / or are pretty young and resilient...may be a different story. (Maybe
you made a typo?)

Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
you're doing?

Some day I hope to be able to do a Brevet like that. Good job.

-B

06-11-2004, 10:21 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:03:33 +0200, Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
>16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
>3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
>to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
>the bike.
>
>We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
>people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
>north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
>situation if riders get too sleepy.
>
>The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
>training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
>more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
>the looooong tour...
>
>Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

Wow. Good luck to you, too. Mine's still in the 'fantasy stage', but I'm
pretty sure I'll try it in the fall when it's cooler.

Uh, you say long training tours are a must? If my mental calculations are
correct, it sounds like your training tour is very short!

I'll have done several rides at ~50% of the total time/distance, and have
already done 1/2 the expected distance on a 45lb broken beater bike.

I can't imagine riding 8 hours on a base of only 1-2 hr as the max ride, or
on 1/10th the total distance! Of course if you've been riding for 10 years,
and / or are pretty young and resilient...may be a different story. (Maybe
you made a typo?)

Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
you're doing?

Some day I hope to be able to do a Brevet like that. Good job.

-B

06-11-2004, 10:21 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:03:33 +0200, Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
>16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
>3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
>to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
>the bike.
>
>We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
>people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
>north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
>situation if riders get too sleepy.
>
>The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
>training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
>more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
>the looooong tour...
>
>Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

Wow. Good luck to you, too. Mine's still in the 'fantasy stage', but I'm
pretty sure I'll try it in the fall when it's cooler.

Uh, you say long training tours are a must? If my mental calculations are
correct, it sounds like your training tour is very short!

I'll have done several rides at ~50% of the total time/distance, and have
already done 1/2 the expected distance on a 45lb broken beater bike.

I can't imagine riding 8 hours on a base of only 1-2 hr as the max ride, or
on 1/10th the total distance! Of course if you've been riding for 10 years,
and / or are pretty young and resilient...may be a different story. (Maybe
you made a typo?)

Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
you're doing?

Some day I hope to be able to do a Brevet like that. Good job.

-B

06-11-2004, 10:21 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:03:33 +0200, Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
>16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
>3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
>to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
>the bike.
>
>We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
>people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
>north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
>situation if riders get too sleepy.
>
>The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
>training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
>more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
>the looooong tour...
>
>Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

Wow. Good luck to you, too. Mine's still in the 'fantasy stage', but I'm
pretty sure I'll try it in the fall when it's cooler.

Uh, you say long training tours are a must? If my mental calculations are
correct, it sounds like your training tour is very short!

I'll have done several rides at ~50% of the total time/distance, and have
already done 1/2 the expected distance on a 45lb broken beater bike.

I can't imagine riding 8 hours on a base of only 1-2 hr as the max ride, or
on 1/10th the total distance! Of course if you've been riding for 10 years,
and / or are pretty young and resilient...may be a different story. (Maybe
you made a typo?)

Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
you're doing?

Some day I hope to be able to do a Brevet like that. Good job.

-B