Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs - Page 5

06-11-2004, 10:21 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:03:33 +0200, Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>It's now 15 days before I will do my longest ride so far this year. It's a
>16-18 hour long ride (540 km). I will be riding with a group and we plann
>3-4 stops during the ride. Each stop will be about 5 minutes - enough time
>to fill up bottles and the jersey pockets with food. Eating will be done on
>the bike.
>
>We start early in the morning. The worst part is when it gets dark. Some
>people can get very sleepy during the dark period of the night (we live far
>north, so it will not be completly dark), and it can cause some dangerous
>situation if riders get too sleepy.
>
>The amount of training before such a long ride, is very important. Long
>training tours is a must. So far I have 3 rides over 100 km (3 1/2 hour or
>more each tour). I hope to get at least one more 100+ km ride before I do
>the looooong tour...
>
>Good luck on your 8-hour ride.

Wow. Good luck to you, too. Mine's still in the 'fantasy stage', but I'm
pretty sure I'll try it in the fall when it's cooler.

Uh, you say long training tours are a must? If my mental calculations are
correct, it sounds like your training tour is very short!

I'll have done several rides at ~50% of the total time/distance, and have
already done 1/2 the expected distance on a 45lb broken beater bike.

I can't imagine riding 8 hours on a base of only 1-2 hr as the max ride, or
on 1/10th the total distance! Of course if you've been riding for 10 years,
and / or are pretty young and resilient...may be a different story. (Maybe
you made a typo?)

Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
you're doing?

Some day I hope to be able to do a Brevet like that. Good job.

-B

06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
>you're doing?

oops, Norway. Meant to check the header but hit send too quickly. So where
in Norway? Near the arctic circle, eh?

-Badger

06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
>you're doing?

oops, Norway. Meant to check the header but hit send too quickly. So where
in Norway? Near the arctic circle, eh?

-Badger

06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
>you're doing?

oops, Norway. Meant to check the header but hit send too quickly. So where
in Norway? Near the arctic circle, eh?

-Badger

06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
>you're doing?

oops, Norway. Meant to check the header but hit send too quickly. So where
in Norway? Near the arctic circle, eh?

-Badger

06-11-2004, 10:24 AM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:21:49 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Where are you (Denmark?) and do you have a map online of that cool ride
>you're doing?

oops, Norway. Meant to check the header but hit send too quickly. So where
in Norway? Near the arctic circle, eh?

-Badger

06-11-2004, 10:49 AM

David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
:: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
:::
::: I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a
::: summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to
::: pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about:
::
:: How long is "long" (mile-wise, that is)?
::
::
::: Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat,
::: then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat
::: rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme?
::: 3-2-1-2?
:::
::: People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2
::: weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would
::: probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of
::: clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it
::: up?
::
:: I'd probably put the first rest stop well before the 3 hour point,
:: and space them more evenly. Maybe 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5, or 2-2-2-2.
:: Also, 30 minutes might be too long of a break; it might give your
:: muscles too long, so that you would need a long warm up again when
:: you start back up YMMV a lot on this, and will probably depend on
:: the weather (temperature particularly). More frequent, shorter
:: breaks work well for many people, such as 5 to 10 minutes every hour.

How many times (or how many miles) would you break on a century ride?

::
::
::: I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna
::: try and get the family interested in it to help with that.
:::
::: I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the
::: big deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot
::: (like frequent 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5
::: hours, and only did that once. I'm hoping to get some posts on
::: others who have done something like this, and their experiences vs
::: the initial expectations.
:::
::: I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first
::: light. o 5:30-8:30
::: o 9:00-11:00
::: o 12:-1
::: o 2-4pm
:::
::: TIA,
:::
::: -Badger
:::
:::
:::
::
:: --
:: Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
:: newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 10:49 AM

David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
:: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
:::
::: I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a
::: summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to
::: pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about:
::
:: How long is "long" (mile-wise, that is)?
::
::
::: Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat,
::: then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat
::: rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme?
::: 3-2-1-2?
:::
::: People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2
::: weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would
::: probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of
::: clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it
::: up?
::
:: I'd probably put the first rest stop well before the 3 hour point,
:: and space them more evenly. Maybe 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5, or 2-2-2-2.
:: Also, 30 minutes might be too long of a break; it might give your
:: muscles too long, so that you would need a long warm up again when
:: you start back up YMMV a lot on this, and will probably depend on
:: the weather (temperature particularly). More frequent, shorter
:: breaks work well for many people, such as 5 to 10 minutes every hour.

How many times (or how many miles) would you break on a century ride?

::
::
::: I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna
::: try and get the family interested in it to help with that.
:::
::: I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the
::: big deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot
::: (like frequent 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5
::: hours, and only did that once. I'm hoping to get some posts on
::: others who have done something like this, and their experiences vs
::: the initial expectations.
:::
::: I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first
::: light. o 5:30-8:30
::: o 9:00-11:00
::: o 12:-1
::: o 2-4pm
:::
::: TIA,
:::
::: -Badger
:::
:::
:::
::
:: --
:: Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
:: newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 10:49 AM

David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
:: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
:::
::: I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a
::: summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to
::: pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about:
::
:: How long is "long" (mile-wise, that is)?
::
::
::: Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat,
::: then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat
::: rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme?
::: 3-2-1-2?
:::
::: People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2
::: weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would
::: probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of
::: clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it
::: up?
::
:: I'd probably put the first rest stop well before the 3 hour point,
:: and space them more evenly. Maybe 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5, or 2-2-2-2.
:: Also, 30 minutes might be too long of a break; it might give your
:: muscles too long, so that you would need a long warm up again when
:: you start back up YMMV a lot on this, and will probably depend on
:: the weather (temperature particularly). More frequent, shorter
:: breaks work well for many people, such as 5 to 10 minutes every hour.

How many times (or how many miles) would you break on a century ride?

::
::
::: I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna
::: try and get the family interested in it to help with that.
:::
::: I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the
::: big deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot
::: (like frequent 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5
::: hours, and only did that once. I'm hoping to get some posts on
::: others who have done something like this, and their experiences vs
::: the initial expectations.
:::
::: I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first
::: light. o 5:30-8:30
::: o 9:00-11:00
::: o 12:-1
::: o 2-4pm
:::
::: TIA,
:::
::: -Badger
:::
:::
:::
::
:: --
:: Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
:: newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 10:49 AM

David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
:: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
:::
::: I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a
::: summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to
::: pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about:
::
:: How long is "long" (mile-wise, that is)?
::
::
::: Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat,
::: then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat
::: rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme?
::: 3-2-1-2?
:::
::: People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2
::: weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would
::: probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of
::: clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it
::: up?
::
:: I'd probably put the first rest stop well before the 3 hour point,
:: and space them more evenly. Maybe 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5, or 2-2-2-2.
:: Also, 30 minutes might be too long of a break; it might give your
:: muscles too long, so that you would need a long warm up again when
:: you start back up YMMV a lot on this, and will probably depend on
:: the weather (temperature particularly). More frequent, shorter
:: breaks work well for many people, such as 5 to 10 minutes every hour.

How many times (or how many miles) would you break on a century ride?

::
::
::: I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna
::: try and get the family interested in it to help with that.
:::
::: I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the
::: big deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot
::: (like frequent 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5
::: hours, and only did that once. I'm hoping to get some posts on
::: others who have done something like this, and their experiences vs
::: the initial expectations.
:::
::: I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first
::: light. o 5:30-8:30
::: o 9:00-11:00
::: o 12:-1
::: o 2-4pm
:::
::: TIA,
:::
::: -Badger
:::
:::
:::
::
:: --
:: Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
:: newsgroups if possible).