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Old 06-12-2004, 08:49 AM   #101 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Daniel J. Stern said:

>On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, maxo wrote:
>
>> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get
>> your bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for
>> even experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken
>> out and jump up on the sidewalk there.

>
>Yeesh. Sounds like fun and merriment for all involved...


Only an idiot would ride on Sheridan Road, or any of a thousand other streets
that were laid out in the horse-and-buggy days and thus BARELY have enough width
for the four lanes of automobile traffic for which they are striped, let alone a
bicycle riding along the right hand side.

Unfortunately, although there is a fabulous bike path that starts at Hollywood
and goes south all the way to Jackson Park, and another one that begins in
Evanston and goes north through Wilmette and along the former North Shore Line
right-of-way past Ravinia, there is a huge gap in the middle between Hollywood
and South Boulevard with no bike path - just ultra-congested, super-narrow
Sheridan Road. This is undoubtedly a big part of why some pedalcyclists use it
despite the obvious hazards.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #102 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Brent P said:

>> Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
>> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
>> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
>> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
>> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.

>
>So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
>Your arguements apply in the same manner.


Shoes are not vehicles.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #103 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Brent P said:

>> Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
>> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
>> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
>> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
>> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.

>
>So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
>Your arguements apply in the same manner.


Shoes are not vehicles.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #104 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Brent P said:

>> Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
>> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
>> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
>> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
>> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.

>
>So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
>Your arguements apply in the same manner.


Shoes are not vehicles.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #105 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Brent P said:

>> Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
>> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
>> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
>> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
>> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.

>
>So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
>Your arguements apply in the same manner.


Shoes are not vehicles.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #106 (permalink)
Scott in Aztlán
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In rec.autos.driving, Brent P said:

>> Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
>> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
>> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
>> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
>> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.

>
>So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
>Your arguements apply in the same manner.


Shoes are not vehicles.

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Old 06-12-2004, 09:07 AM   #107 (permalink)
Mike Kruger
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"maxo" <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote in message
newsan.2004.06.12.14.52.17.402184@NOSPAMhome.se. ..
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:18:33 +0000, Hunrobe wrote:
>
> > Oh, and there *are* parallel alternate routes
> > that include surface streets and a designated MUP.

>
> Yeah, but the view sucks. He he.
>
> I've always taken the lakeshore path and just ridden on Sheridan when I
> had to and let 'em honk, because it's the fastest way to get to that
> Turkish restaurant immediately south of Loyola which has the best dolmas
> in the universe--traffic be damned.
>

In an earlier message, you noted:

> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get your
> bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for even
> experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken out
> and jump up on the sidewalk there.
>

Yes, the parallel streets just west of Sheridan (e.g. Kenmore) are
theoretically not as scenic, but they aren't ugly -- and I can't think
anybody would do much sightseeing in Sheridan Rd. traffic.


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Old 06-12-2004, 09:07 AM   #108 (permalink)
Mike Kruger
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"maxo" <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote in message
newsan.2004.06.12.14.52.17.402184@NOSPAMhome.se. ..
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:18:33 +0000, Hunrobe wrote:
>
> > Oh, and there *are* parallel alternate routes
> > that include surface streets and a designated MUP.

>
> Yeah, but the view sucks. He he.
>
> I've always taken the lakeshore path and just ridden on Sheridan when I
> had to and let 'em honk, because it's the fastest way to get to that
> Turkish restaurant immediately south of Loyola which has the best dolmas
> in the universe--traffic be damned.
>

In an earlier message, you noted:

> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get your
> bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for even
> experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken out
> and jump up on the sidewalk there.
>

Yes, the parallel streets just west of Sheridan (e.g. Kenmore) are
theoretically not as scenic, but they aren't ugly -- and I can't think
anybody would do much sightseeing in Sheridan Rd. traffic.


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Old 06-12-2004, 09:07 AM   #109 (permalink)
Mike Kruger
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"maxo" <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote in message
newsan.2004.06.12.14.52.17.402184@NOSPAMhome.se. ..
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:18:33 +0000, Hunrobe wrote:
>
> > Oh, and there *are* parallel alternate routes
> > that include surface streets and a designated MUP.

>
> Yeah, but the view sucks. He he.
>
> I've always taken the lakeshore path and just ridden on Sheridan when I
> had to and let 'em honk, because it's the fastest way to get to that
> Turkish restaurant immediately south of Loyola which has the best dolmas
> in the universe--traffic be damned.
>

In an earlier message, you noted:

> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get your
> bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for even
> experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken out
> and jump up on the sidewalk there.
>

Yes, the parallel streets just west of Sheridan (e.g. Kenmore) are
theoretically not as scenic, but they aren't ugly -- and I can't think
anybody would do much sightseeing in Sheridan Rd. traffic.


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Old 06-12-2004, 09:07 AM   #110 (permalink)
Mike Kruger
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"maxo" <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote in message
newsan.2004.06.12.14.52.17.402184@NOSPAMhome.se. ..
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:18:33 +0000, Hunrobe wrote:
>
> > Oh, and there *are* parallel alternate routes
> > that include surface streets and a designated MUP.

>
> Yeah, but the view sucks. He he.
>
> I've always taken the lakeshore path and just ridden on Sheridan when I
> had to and let 'em honk, because it's the fastest way to get to that
> Turkish restaurant immediately south of Loyola which has the best dolmas
> in the universe--traffic be damned.
>

In an earlier message, you noted:

> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get your
> bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for even
> experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken out
> and jump up on the sidewalk there.
>

Yes, the parallel streets just west of Sheridan (e.g. Kenmore) are
theoretically not as scenic, but they aren't ugly -- and I can't think
anybody would do much sightseeing in Sheridan Rd. traffic.


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