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Old 06-11-2004, 09:24 PM   #41 (permalink)
Brent P
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ch.edu>, Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
>
>> >There's no law requiring
>> >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
>> >matter, any form of identification at all --

>>
>> Nor should there be.

>
> I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law If
> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.


So you are going to require people to license their shoes too?
Your arguements apply in the same manner.

>> It's a lot harder to ride a horse than it is to ride a bike, yet back in
>> the days when everyone rode around on horseback, a license wasn't
>> required.

>
> Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


I think you should watch some old films from the early 20th century.
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> said:

>Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


Then maybe cars should be banned from the roads.

Let's face it: A lot of roads were built before cars were invented. So
do cars really have a right to be on our roads?

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Old 06-11-2004, 09:36 PM   #43 (permalink)
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> said:

>Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


Then maybe cars should be banned from the roads.

Let's face it: A lot of roads were built before cars were invented. So
do cars really have a right to be on our roads?

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Old 06-11-2004, 09:36 PM   #44 (permalink)
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> said:

>Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


Then maybe cars should be banned from the roads.

Let's face it: A lot of roads were built before cars were invented. So
do cars really have a right to be on our roads?

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Old 06-11-2004, 09:36 PM   #45 (permalink)
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> said:

>Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


Then maybe cars should be banned from the roads.

Let's face it: A lot of roads were built before cars were invented. So
do cars really have a right to be on our roads?

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Old 06-11-2004, 09:36 PM   #46 (permalink)
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> said:

>Horses weren't mixed in with cars, either.


Then maybe cars should be banned from the roads.

Let's face it: A lot of roads were built before cars were invented. So
do cars really have a right to be on our roads?

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Old 06-11-2004, 10:08 PM   #47 (permalink)
Pete
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!


"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120015260.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
>
> > >There's no law requiring
> > >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for

that
> > >matter, any form of identification at all --

> >
> > Nor should there be.

>
> I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law. If
> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.


So you think cyclists should be required to have a license and registration?
Below what age should we then ban cycling? 16? 14? 13?

Pete
and no, let's not get into a cross post war with wreck.autos


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Old 06-11-2004, 10:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
Pete
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!


"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120015260.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
>
> > >There's no law requiring
> > >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for

that
> > >matter, any form of identification at all --

> >
> > Nor should there be.

>
> I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law. If
> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.


So you think cyclists should be required to have a license and registration?
Below what age should we then ban cycling? 16? 14? 13?

Pete
and no, let's not get into a cross post war with wreck.autos


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Old 06-11-2004, 10:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
Pete
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!


"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120015260.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
>
> > >There's no law requiring
> > >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for

that
> > >matter, any form of identification at all --

> >
> > Nor should there be.

>
> I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law. If
> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.


So you think cyclists should be required to have a license and registration?
Below what age should we then ban cycling? 16? 14? 13?

Pete
and no, let's not get into a cross post war with wreck.autos


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Old 06-11-2004, 10:08 PM   #50 (permalink)
Pete
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!


"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120015260.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
>
> > >There's no law requiring
> > >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for

that
> > >matter, any form of identification at all --

> >
> > Nor should there be.

>
> I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the
> road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no
> means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law. If
> bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation,
> enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical.


So you think cyclists should be required to have a license and registration?
Below what age should we then ban cycling? 16? 14? 13?

Pete
and no, let's not get into a cross post war with wreck.autos


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