Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! - Page 3

06-12-2004, 02:44 AM

Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Bob

"The Lindbergh Baby" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
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> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > *Reposted, this time to correct groups*
> >
> > (Prefatory note to Brent: Yes, I'm aware there are many badly-behaved
> > motorists. No, I don't think they should get off scot-free, either.
Yes,
> > I'm aware you're vehemently opposed to bicycle and rider registration.
No,
> > I don't buy your putative reasons for it. Yes, I know you have to
respond
> > to this post. No, I won't get in a pissing contest with you.)
> >
> > I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist
for
> > running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the
likes
> > of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike
to
> > the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> > lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> > It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> > it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> > there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he
was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? Is he psychic? There were no cars coming
> because he lived to tell about it. Had there been cars coming, they'd
> be scraping him off the street...
>
> ...And the gene pool would be 0.000000000000000001% better.
>
>
>
> John
>
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>
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>

06-12-2004, 03:53 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120010490.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...

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> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would do this to
these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the road.

--
Paul

06-12-2004, 03:53 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120010490.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...

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> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would do this to
these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the road.

--
Paul

06-12-2004, 03:53 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120010490.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...

<article snipped>

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would do this to
these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the road.

--
Paul

06-12-2004, 03:53 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120010490.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...

<article snipped>

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would do this to
these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the road.

--
Paul

06-12-2004, 03:53 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0406120010490.8911@alumni.engin .umich.edu...

<article snipped>

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would do this to
these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the road.

--
Paul

06-12-2004, 04:02 AM

Bob Newman wrote:
> Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Sounds like the usual over-enforcement directed at auto drivers, where the
cop says you "didn't stop" if you didn't wait 5 seconds before proceeding.
The law needs to recognize that when your car rocks back on its springs,
you've stopped.

06-12-2004, 04:02 AM

Bob Newman wrote:
> Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Sounds like the usual over-enforcement directed at auto drivers, where the
cop says you "didn't stop" if you didn't wait 5 seconds before proceeding.
The law needs to recognize that when your car rocks back on its springs,
you've stopped.

06-12-2004, 04:02 AM

Bob Newman wrote:
> Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Sounds like the usual over-enforcement directed at auto drivers, where the
cop says you "didn't stop" if you didn't wait 5 seconds before proceeding.
The law needs to recognize that when your car rocks back on its springs,
you've stopped.

06-12-2004, 04:02 AM

Bob Newman wrote:
> Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Sounds like the usual over-enforcement directed at auto drivers, where the
cop says you "didn't stop" if you didn't wait 5 seconds before proceeding.
The law needs to recognize that when your car rocks back on its springs,
you've stopped.