Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! - Page 5

06-12-2004, 06:01 AM

"<<<<<< ]] gun_dog99 [[ >>>>>>" wrote:

>
> stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
> at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
> trip the sensor to make the light change.

Applies to all vehicles. If a signal is not working properly, one may
proceed with caution. A vehicle not tripping a sensor indicates a
siognal not working properly.

06-12-2004, 06:10 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Bob Newman wrote:

> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

That seems silly and pecksnifian. For a well-balanced rider and bicycle,
It's perfectly possible to come to the kind of complete and adequate stop
that a stop sign requires without putting a foot fully on the ground.

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:10 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Bob Newman wrote:

> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

That seems silly and pecksnifian. For a well-balanced rider and bicycle,
It's perfectly possible to come to the kind of complete and adequate stop
that a stop sign requires without putting a foot fully on the ground.

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:10 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Bob Newman wrote:

> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

That seems silly and pecksnifian. For a well-balanced rider and bicycle,
It's perfectly possible to come to the kind of complete and adequate stop
that a stop sign requires without putting a foot fully on the ground.

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:10 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Bob Newman wrote:

> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

That seems silly and pecksnifian. For a well-balanced rider and bicycle,
It's perfectly possible to come to the kind of complete and adequate stop
that a stop sign requires without putting a foot fully on the ground.

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:10 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Bob Newman wrote:

> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

That seems silly and pecksnifian. For a well-balanced rider and bicycle,
It's perfectly possible to come to the kind of complete and adequate stop
that a stop sign requires without putting a foot fully on the ground.

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:11 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> > it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> > there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm?? Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I
> doubt it.

Hence my "(surprise...)".

> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know?

He just, y'know, *knows!* Shut up, he does too! Does too does too does
TOO!

(In fact, Bloor street is busy 24 hours a day. There are *ALWAYS* cars
coming from three directions at the particular intersection this guy
blew.)

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:11 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> > it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> > there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm?? Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I
> doubt it.

Hence my "(surprise...)".

> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know?

He just, y'know, *knows!* Shut up, he does too! Does too does too does
TOO!

(In fact, Bloor street is busy 24 hours a day. There are *ALWAYS* cars
coming from three directions at the particular intersection this guy
blew.)

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:11 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> > it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> > there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm?? Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I
> doubt it.

Hence my "(surprise...)".

> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know?

He just, y'know, *knows!* Shut up, he does too! Does too does too does
TOO!

(In fact, Bloor street is busy 24 hours a day. There are *ALWAYS* cars
coming from three directions at the particular intersection this guy
blew.)

-Stern

06-12-2004, 06:11 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> > it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> > there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm?? Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I
> doubt it.

Hence my "(surprise...)".

> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know?

He just, y'know, *knows!* Shut up, he does too! Does too does too does
TOO!

(In fact, Bloor street is busy 24 hours a day. There are *ALWAYS* cars
coming from three directions at the particular intersection this guy
blew.)

-Stern