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Old 06-14-2004, 09:39 PM   #531 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:37:53 -0500, Kevan Smith
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>from cyclingforums.com wrote:
>
>>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?

>
>In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented
>
>If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
>are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
>a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
>various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
>fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
>go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
>goal, I don't think.



I agree completely...I commuted via a major thoroughfare in San Diego
(twelve miles one way) for over eight years and "learned the lights".
During my 25 minute ride rarely did I have to stop.
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #532 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Too many
> cyclists misuse the road knowingly and with malice.


You're certainly fast on the draw when it comes to hyberbole.

Malice is often more in the eye of the beholder than in
the beholden.

Anyhow, mandatory licensing & registration of bicycles is a
non-starter, so you might as well go back to picking wings
off of flies, or whatever it is you do to kill time.

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Old 06-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #533 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Too many
> cyclists misuse the road knowingly and with malice.


You're certainly fast on the draw when it comes to hyberbole.

Malice is often more in the eye of the beholder than in
the beholden.

Anyhow, mandatory licensing & registration of bicycles is a
non-starter, so you might as well go back to picking wings
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #534 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Too many
> cyclists misuse the road knowingly and with malice.


You're certainly fast on the draw when it comes to hyberbole.

Malice is often more in the eye of the beholder than in
the beholden.

Anyhow, mandatory licensing & registration of bicycles is a
non-starter, so you might as well go back to picking wings
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #535 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Too many
> cyclists misuse the road knowingly and with malice.


You're certainly fast on the draw when it comes to hyberbole.

Malice is often more in the eye of the beholder than in
the beholden.

Anyhow, mandatory licensing & registration of bicycles is a
non-starter, so you might as well go back to picking wings
off of flies, or whatever it is you do to kill time.

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Old 06-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #536 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

> Too many
> cyclists misuse the road knowingly and with malice.


You're certainly fast on the draw when it comes to hyberbole.

Malice is often more in the eye of the beholder than in
the beholden.

Anyhow, mandatory licensing & registration of bicycles is a
non-starter, so you might as well go back to picking wings
off of flies, or whatever it is you do to kill time.

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Old 06-15-2004, 03:10 AM   #537 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au>,
Bernd Felsche <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au> writes:

> I love it.


I love you!! In fact, I'd like to give you a big, wet,
slurpy kiss right now -- from a non-driving cyclist to
a driver. So here it is: Mmmmmwwwaaa!

L'amour: c'est bon, n'est pas?

How's that for malice?




Mmmmmwwwaaa! (you're so irresistible, you love-hungry cutie.)

And thank you for speaking of Love, because that's how we
get along. Not 'love' in weird, sexual ways, but just how
we human beans get along with each other -- especially in
passing, like on roadways. If we didn't care for our fellows,
chaos would ensue, and road rage would prevail.

Now, I'm just a poor guy, but I /earn/ my keep. I'm not on
welfare or anything like that. I work (at home, typing
transcripts of boring documentaries.) But I often need my
bicycle in order to pick-up my work materials, to deliver my
finished product, and yes -- even to pick up and cash my paltry
little paycheques. I often /have/ to ride, rain or shine.
And since I live in Vancouver BC, it's often rain. I save
a lot of busfare, not to mention time, by riding instead of
taking the bus.

With my current low financial status, I readily submit that
cyclists like me are most definitely /not/ willing to take
chances such as bolting into a busy intersection, or any
other infraction that might result in an expensive fine.
Or worse, medical expenses incurred by being clobbered by
a car. I've already spent top-dollar, ensuring that my
bike and myself are perfectly legal.

On the streets, drivers find me considerate, and they
appreciate my consideration (even though I just don't want
them to clobber me.) I often take to the side-streets.
Those can be dangerous, because they're narrow. Anyhow,
I've observed how drivers on narrow side-streets are willing
to dive into gaps between parked cars, to let oncoming cars
go by. I do the same thing as the drivers, and often get an
appreciative smile & wave from them as they roll by. That
feels really good to me. But it can be a dangerous practice
for a cyclist because if improperly done, it could entail
disappearing from view (between parked cars), and then suddenly
popping-out into the traffic stream again.

When I'm on the big arterial streets, I might get yelled-at,
honked-at, spat-at, have burning cigarette butts or McDonald's
grunge tossed at me, or all manner of abuse directed at me -- when
I'm not in anybody's way, I'm just minding my own business and
trying to get to where I'm going, just like everybody else.
Phffffft. Daniel Stern complains about the antics of cyclists, but ...
nah, let's not go there.

Tell ya what, though -- if I had to deal with the expense of
licensing and registration, I might as well sell my bike for
food, go on the dole, and live on your tax money.

Inflicting mandatory licensing & registration on cyclists
wouuld be, besides an expensive and reduntant inflation of
governmental bureaucracy, an unconscionable expropriation
of /your/ right to freedom of movement. Everyone has the
right to ride a bicycle, whether or not they actually want
to. Some of us want to. Some of us have to. Especially with
the current high (and getting higher) gasoline prices.

Love -- what an inspiration!

Mmmmmwwwaaa! I do love you!


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Old 06-15-2004, 03:10 AM   #538 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au>,
Bernd Felsche <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au> writes:

> I love it.


I love you!! In fact, I'd like to give you a big, wet,
slurpy kiss right now -- from a non-driving cyclist to
a driver. So here it is: Mmmmmwwwaaa!

L'amour: c'est bon, n'est pas?

How's that for malice?




Mmmmmwwwaaa! (you're so irresistible, you love-hungry cutie.)

And thank you for speaking of Love, because that's how we
get along. Not 'love' in weird, sexual ways, but just how
we human beans get along with each other -- especially in
passing, like on roadways. If we didn't care for our fellows,
chaos would ensue, and road rage would prevail.

Now, I'm just a poor guy, but I /earn/ my keep. I'm not on
welfare or anything like that. I work (at home, typing
transcripts of boring documentaries.) But I often need my
bicycle in order to pick-up my work materials, to deliver my
finished product, and yes -- even to pick up and cash my paltry
little paycheques. I often /have/ to ride, rain or shine.
And since I live in Vancouver BC, it's often rain. I save
a lot of busfare, not to mention time, by riding instead of
taking the bus.

With my current low financial status, I readily submit that
cyclists like me are most definitely /not/ willing to take
chances such as bolting into a busy intersection, or any
other infraction that might result in an expensive fine.
Or worse, medical expenses incurred by being clobbered by
a car. I've already spent top-dollar, ensuring that my
bike and myself are perfectly legal.

On the streets, drivers find me considerate, and they
appreciate my consideration (even though I just don't want
them to clobber me.) I often take to the side-streets.
Those can be dangerous, because they're narrow. Anyhow,
I've observed how drivers on narrow side-streets are willing
to dive into gaps between parked cars, to let oncoming cars
go by. I do the same thing as the drivers, and often get an
appreciative smile & wave from them as they roll by. That
feels really good to me. But it can be a dangerous practice
for a cyclist because if improperly done, it could entail
disappearing from view (between parked cars), and then suddenly
popping-out into the traffic stream again.

When I'm on the big arterial streets, I might get yelled-at,
honked-at, spat-at, have burning cigarette butts or McDonald's
grunge tossed at me, or all manner of abuse directed at me -- when
I'm not in anybody's way, I'm just minding my own business and
trying to get to where I'm going, just like everybody else.
Phffffft. Daniel Stern complains about the antics of cyclists, but ...
nah, let's not go there.

Tell ya what, though -- if I had to deal with the expense of
licensing and registration, I might as well sell my bike for
food, go on the dole, and live on your tax money.

Inflicting mandatory licensing & registration on cyclists
wouuld be, besides an expensive and reduntant inflation of
governmental bureaucracy, an unconscionable expropriation
of /your/ right to freedom of movement. Everyone has the
right to ride a bicycle, whether or not they actually want
to. Some of us want to. Some of us have to. Especially with
the current high (and getting higher) gasoline prices.

Love -- what an inspiration!

Mmmmmwwwaaa! I do love you!


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Old 06-15-2004, 03:10 AM   #539 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au>,
Bernd Felsche <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au> writes:

> I love it.


I love you!! In fact, I'd like to give you a big, wet,
slurpy kiss right now -- from a non-driving cyclist to
a driver. So here it is: Mmmmmwwwaaa!

L'amour: c'est bon, n'est pas?

How's that for malice?




Mmmmmwwwaaa! (you're so irresistible, you love-hungry cutie.)

And thank you for speaking of Love, because that's how we
get along. Not 'love' in weird, sexual ways, but just how
we human beans get along with each other -- especially in
passing, like on roadways. If we didn't care for our fellows,
chaos would ensue, and road rage would prevail.

Now, I'm just a poor guy, but I /earn/ my keep. I'm not on
welfare or anything like that. I work (at home, typing
transcripts of boring documentaries.) But I often need my
bicycle in order to pick-up my work materials, to deliver my
finished product, and yes -- even to pick up and cash my paltry
little paycheques. I often /have/ to ride, rain or shine.
And since I live in Vancouver BC, it's often rain. I save
a lot of busfare, not to mention time, by riding instead of
taking the bus.

With my current low financial status, I readily submit that
cyclists like me are most definitely /not/ willing to take
chances such as bolting into a busy intersection, or any
other infraction that might result in an expensive fine.
Or worse, medical expenses incurred by being clobbered by
a car. I've already spent top-dollar, ensuring that my
bike and myself are perfectly legal.

On the streets, drivers find me considerate, and they
appreciate my consideration (even though I just don't want
them to clobber me.) I often take to the side-streets.
Those can be dangerous, because they're narrow. Anyhow,
I've observed how drivers on narrow side-streets are willing
to dive into gaps between parked cars, to let oncoming cars
go by. I do the same thing as the drivers, and often get an
appreciative smile & wave from them as they roll by. That
feels really good to me. But it can be a dangerous practice
for a cyclist because if improperly done, it could entail
disappearing from view (between parked cars), and then suddenly
popping-out into the traffic stream again.

When I'm on the big arterial streets, I might get yelled-at,
honked-at, spat-at, have burning cigarette butts or McDonald's
grunge tossed at me, or all manner of abuse directed at me -- when
I'm not in anybody's way, I'm just minding my own business and
trying to get to where I'm going, just like everybody else.
Phffffft. Daniel Stern complains about the antics of cyclists, but ...
nah, let's not go there.

Tell ya what, though -- if I had to deal with the expense of
licensing and registration, I might as well sell my bike for
food, go on the dole, and live on your tax money.

Inflicting mandatory licensing & registration on cyclists
wouuld be, besides an expensive and reduntant inflation of
governmental bureaucracy, an unconscionable expropriation
of /your/ right to freedom of movement. Everyone has the
right to ride a bicycle, whether or not they actually want
to. Some of us want to. Some of us have to. Especially with
the current high (and getting higher) gasoline prices.

Love -- what an inspiration!

Mmmmmwwwaaa! I do love you!


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Old 06-15-2004, 03:10 AM   #540 (permalink)
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au>,
Bernd Felsche <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].au> writes:

> I love it.


I love you!! In fact, I'd like to give you a big, wet,
slurpy kiss right now -- from a non-driving cyclist to
a driver. So here it is: Mmmmmwwwaaa!

L'amour: c'est bon, n'est pas?

How's that for malice?




Mmmmmwwwaaa! (you're so irresistible, you love-hungry cutie.)

And thank you for speaking of Love, because that's how we
get along. Not 'love' in weird, sexual ways, but just how
we human beans get along with each other -- especially in
passing, like on roadways. If we didn't care for our fellows,
chaos would ensue, and road rage would prevail.

Now, I'm just a poor guy, but I /earn/ my keep. I'm not on
welfare or anything like that. I work (at home, typing
transcripts of boring documentaries.) But I often need my
bicycle in order to pick-up my work materials, to deliver my
finished product, and yes -- even to pick up and cash my paltry
little paycheques. I often /have/ to ride, rain or shine.
And since I live in Vancouver BC, it's often rain. I save
a lot of busfare, not to mention time, by riding instead of
taking the bus.

With my current low financial status, I readily submit that
cyclists like me are most definitely /not/ willing to take
chances such as bolting into a busy intersection, or any
other infraction that might result in an expensive fine.
Or worse, medical expenses incurred by being clobbered by
a car. I've already spent top-dollar, ensuring that my
bike and myself are perfectly legal.

On the streets, drivers find me considerate, and they
appreciate my consideration (even though I just don't want
them to clobber me.) I often take to the side-streets.
Those can be dangerous, because they're narrow. Anyhow,
I've observed how drivers on narrow side-streets are willing
to dive into gaps between parked cars, to let oncoming cars
go by. I do the same thing as the drivers, and often get an
appreciative smile & wave from them as they roll by. That
feels really good to me. But it can be a dangerous practice
for a cyclist because if improperly done, it could entail
disappearing from view (between parked cars), and then suddenly
popping-out into the traffic stream again.

When I'm on the big arterial streets, I might get yelled-at,
honked-at, spat-at, have burning cigarette butts or McDonald's
grunge tossed at me, or all manner of abuse directed at me -- when
I'm not in anybody's way, I'm just minding my own business and
trying to get to where I'm going, just like everybody else.
Phffffft. Daniel Stern complains about the antics of cyclists, but ...
nah, let's not go there.

Tell ya what, though -- if I had to deal with the expense of
licensing and registration, I might as well sell my bike for
food, go on the dole, and live on your tax money.

Inflicting mandatory licensing & registration on cyclists
wouuld be, besides an expensive and reduntant inflation of
governmental bureaucracy, an unconscionable expropriation
of /your/ right to freedom of movement. Everyone has the
right to ride a bicycle, whether or not they actually want
to. Some of us want to. Some of us have to. Especially with
the current high (and getting higher) gasoline prices.

Love -- what an inspiration!

Mmmmmwwwaaa! I do love you!


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