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06-15-2004, 03:19 PM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>Let us not foget, the are Probably Canadian Geese.
>That is practically french to me.
>Open season

Any goose from Canada- blue, snow, speckled, etc.- is Canadian but the
*species* you are thinking of is Canada Goose.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 03:28 PM

>Zoot Katz [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>
>Who's driving?
>
>Why shouldn't they bear responsibility for having taken that decision
>to drive?
>
>So, if by dodging your scud I smack a pedestrian, it's your fault?
>
>That'll be the day.
>

If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're darned
right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the choice
of transportation device and everything to do with the way that transportation
device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your argument of
personal responsibility becomes.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 03:28 PM

>Zoot Katz [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>
>Who's driving?
>
>Why shouldn't they bear responsibility for having taken that decision
>to drive?
>
>So, if by dodging your scud I smack a pedestrian, it's your fault?
>
>That'll be the day.
>

If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're darned
right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the choice
of transportation device and everything to do with the way that transportation
device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your argument of
personal responsibility becomes.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 03:28 PM

>Zoot Katz [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>
>Who's driving?
>
>Why shouldn't they bear responsibility for having taken that decision
>to drive?
>
>So, if by dodging your scud I smack a pedestrian, it's your fault?
>
>That'll be the day.
>

If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're darned
right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the choice
of transportation device and everything to do with the way that transportation
device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your argument of
personal responsibility becomes.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 03:28 PM

>Zoot Katz [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>
>Who's driving?
>
>Why shouldn't they bear responsibility for having taken that decision
>to drive?
>
>So, if by dodging your scud I smack a pedestrian, it's your fault?
>
>That'll be the day.
>

If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're darned
right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the choice
of transportation device and everything to do with the way that transportation
device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your argument of
personal responsibility becomes.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 03:28 PM

>Zoot Katz [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>
>Who's driving?
>
>Why shouldn't they bear responsibility for having taken that decision
>to drive?
>
>So, if by dodging your scud I smack a pedestrian, it's your fault?
>
>That'll be the day.
>

If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're darned
right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the choice
of transportation device and everything to do with the way that transportation
device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your argument of
personal responsibility becomes.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-15-2004, 04:19 PM

"Hunrobe" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com...
> If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
> operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're
darned
> right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the
choice
> of transportation device and everything to do with the way that
transportation
> device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your
argument of
> personal responsibility becomes.

Lately I've had the experience of commuting to a downtown office instead of
burbs. Lots more bikes, peds and very slow cars. Generally riders, peds and
drivers seems good downtown and in the burbs, but travelling between the two
is a bit nuts. Cars continually cut me off or honk if I leave more than 6
feet to the car in front of me. We're all shouting and gesturing insults at
each other. Riders are blasting through lights like they have a death wish
but they're wearing helmets (not required by law) so obviously they are
safe. They even run into me as I have this silly habit of stopping for
lights with cross traffic.

I think I know where all those rude drivers come from, they're the
light-blowing cyclists who bought cars. I've had enough of all these
confrontations. I going back to ignoring the idiots and just trying to avoid
my own mistakes and to be as polite as possible to other road users. It sure
made for a lot nicer rides.

Doug

06-15-2004, 04:19 PM

"Hunrobe" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com...
> If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
> operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're
darned
> right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the
choice
> of transportation device and everything to do with the way that
transportation
> device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your
argument of
> personal responsibility becomes.

Lately I've had the experience of commuting to a downtown office instead of
burbs. Lots more bikes, peds and very slow cars. Generally riders, peds and
drivers seems good downtown and in the burbs, but travelling between the two
is a bit nuts. Cars continually cut me off or honk if I leave more than 6
feet to the car in front of me. We're all shouting and gesturing insults at
each other. Riders are blasting through lights like they have a death wish
but they're wearing helmets (not required by law) so obviously they are
safe. They even run into me as I have this silly habit of stopping for
lights with cross traffic.

I think I know where all those rude drivers come from, they're the
light-blowing cyclists who bought cars. I've had enough of all these
confrontations. I going back to ignoring the idiots and just trying to avoid
my own mistakes and to be as polite as possible to other road users. It sure
made for a lot nicer rides.

Doug

06-15-2004, 04:19 PM

"Hunrobe" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com...
> If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
> operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're
darned
> right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the
choice
> of transportation device and everything to do with the way that
transportation
> device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your
argument of
> personal responsibility becomes.

Lately I've had the experience of commuting to a downtown office instead of
burbs. Lots more bikes, peds and very slow cars. Generally riders, peds and
drivers seems good downtown and in the burbs, but travelling between the two
is a bit nuts. Cars continually cut me off or honk if I leave more than 6
feet to the car in front of me. We're all shouting and gesturing insults at
each other. Riders are blasting through lights like they have a death wish
but they're wearing helmets (not required by law) so obviously they are
safe. They even run into me as I have this silly habit of stopping for
lights with cross traffic.

I think I know where all those rude drivers come from, they're the
light-blowing cyclists who bought cars. I've had enough of all these
confrontations. I going back to ignoring the idiots and just trying to avoid
my own mistakes and to be as polite as possible to other road users. It sure
made for a lot nicer rides.

Doug

06-15-2004, 04:19 PM

"Hunrobe" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com...
> If you are riding along *legally* and must suddenly dodge a car that is
> operating *illegally* and in the process you hit a pedestrian, you're
darned
> right it's the fault of the car's driver. It has nothing to do with the
choice
> of transportation device and everything to do with the way that
transportation
> device is operated. The more you deny that the less convincing your
argument of
> personal responsibility becomes.

Lately I've had the experience of commuting to a downtown office instead of
burbs. Lots more bikes, peds and very slow cars. Generally riders, peds and
drivers seems good downtown and in the burbs, but travelling between the two
is a bit nuts. Cars continually cut me off or honk if I leave more than 6
feet to the car in front of me. We're all shouting and gesturing insults at
each other. Riders are blasting through lights like they have a death wish
but they're wearing helmets (not required by law) so obviously they are
safe. They even run into me as I have this silly habit of stopping for
lights with cross traffic.

I think I know where all those rude drivers come from, they're the
light-blowing cyclists who bought cars. I've had enough of all these
confrontations. I going back to ignoring the idiots and just trying to avoid
my own mistakes and to be as polite as possible to other road users. It sure
made for a lot nicer rides.

Doug