Ride with music or not? - Page 11

06-13-2004, 01:35 PM

In rec.bicycles.misc, Blue Gator ha avuto il coraggio di scrivere:

> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides. Good
> Idea or Bad Idea?

i hate who listens music while driving, also a bike...
if you go in a park, ok, but in other cases is a terrible thing...

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06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 01:39 PM

David Reuteler wrote:
:: Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
::::: part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was
::::: the sound quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason
::::: that's ironic is that they were completely annihiliated in the
::::: marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha ha.
:::
::: Not all lossy compression is created equal....
::
:: well, that's true. and the lossy compression used on minidisc
:: players is in general *BETTER* than what's used on mp3 players (mp3s
:: compress smaller for a given compression ratio, but atracs sound
:: better). that's kind of moot anyway because early minidiscs were
:: 4:1 and most mp3s are on the order of 8:1 or 10:1 which clearly
:: sound worse.

With Mp3s nowadays you can set compression levels....I think minidisc
players were just ahead of their time...I have no idea how they sound...

::
::: My iPod has a 30 GB HD in it and can last for at least 6 hours
::: (I've never listened to it that long and would never take it on a
::: bike ride).
::
:: i have the same ipod, btw. pretty hard to charge that in the tent,
:: tho. well, unless you have a generator. which was my point ..
:: battery powered is nice while touring.

And a good one....even though, I do think the make device that will let you
charge your iPod from a battery...I remember wondering....why would someone
want that....now I see at least one good reason (okay, Mp3s will riding is
NOT a good reason, IMO -- that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

06-13-2004, 02:39 PM

Gooserider wrote:
>
> "Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Blue Gator wrote:
> > :: This has probably been discussed before, but please forgive me for
> > :: asking since I'm new to the group.
> > ::
> > :: I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
> > :: Good Idea or Bad Idea?
> >
> > IMO, a very bad idea. You need to listen for approaching cars, or at
> > least I do.
>
> Some people advocate using an earplug in the right ear, as to leave the left
> ear for traffic sounds. I don't know how well that would work. I don't ride
> with music either, preferring to listen to the sounds of nature. :-)

The one-ear thing works fine, especially if you have a 'mono' switch on
your device. There's no problem at all in hearing cars. Nature? Yeah,
right. Well, I guess it's possible during traffic lulls...

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================================================== ===
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06-13-2004, 02:39 PM

Gooserider wrote:
>
> "Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Blue Gator wrote:
> > :: This has probably been discussed before, but please forgive me for
> > :: asking since I'm new to the group.
> > ::
> > :: I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
> > :: Good Idea or Bad Idea?
> >
> > IMO, a very bad idea. You need to listen for approaching cars, or at
> > least I do.
>
> Some people advocate using an earplug in the right ear, as to leave the left
> ear for traffic sounds. I don't know how well that would work. I don't ride
> with music either, preferring to listen to the sounds of nature. :-)

The one-ear thing works fine, especially if you have a 'mono' switch on
your device. There's no problem at all in hearing cars. Nature? Yeah,
right. Well, I guess it's possible during traffic lulls...

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===
It's 95% of the lawyers making the other 5% look bad.

06-13-2004, 02:39 PM

Gooserider wrote:
>
> "Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Blue Gator wrote:
> > :: This has probably been discussed before, but please forgive me for
> > :: asking since I'm new to the group.
> > ::
> > :: I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
> > :: Good Idea or Bad Idea?
> >
> > IMO, a very bad idea. You need to listen for approaching cars, or at
> > least I do.
>
> Some people advocate using an earplug in the right ear, as to leave the left
> ear for traffic sounds. I don't know how well that would work. I don't ride
> with music either, preferring to listen to the sounds of nature. :-)

The one-ear thing works fine, especially if you have a 'mono' switch on
your device. There's no problem at all in hearing cars. Nature? Yeah,
right. Well, I guess it's possible during traffic lulls...

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===
It's 95% of the lawyers making the other 5% look bad.

06-13-2004, 02:39 PM

Gooserider wrote:
>
> "Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> > Blue Gator wrote:
> > :: This has probably been discussed before, but please forgive me for
> > :: asking since I'm new to the group.
> > ::
> > :: I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
> > :: Good Idea or Bad Idea?
> >
> > IMO, a very bad idea. You need to listen for approaching cars, or at
> > least I do.
>
> Some people advocate using an earplug in the right ear, as to leave the left
> ear for traffic sounds. I don't know how well that would work. I don't ride
> with music either, preferring to listen to the sounds of nature. :-)

The one-ear thing works fine, especially if you have a 'mono' switch on
your device. There's no problem at all in hearing cars. Nature? Yeah,
right. Well, I guess it's possible during traffic lulls...

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===
It's 95% of the lawyers making the other 5% look bad.