End-Bar mirrors - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-13-2004, 01:21 PM

hi all,
this is my first post here

i'm from italy and i have a full-suspended bike.
i'm going to buy a mirror for my bike, a end-bar one.
in the net i've seen the zefal cyclop, it costs in italy 13 euro(s).
in decathlon (if you don't know about it, it is a shop that sells only
sport accessores) a mirror for 8 euro.

what should I buy? i think the zefal (more price = more quality)
but the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing? if I have understood
it should mean that i see the things closer then they are in the
reality. I don't know if the decathlon one is convex.

help me to choose!

thanks in advice,
Alex88 (and sorry for my bad english

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06-13-2004, 02:40 PM

"Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
head.

06-13-2004, 02:40 PM

"Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
head.

06-13-2004, 02:40 PM

"Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
head.

06-13-2004, 02:40 PM

"Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
head.

06-13-2004, 02:40 PM

"Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
head.

06-13-2004, 02:59 PM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
>
> "Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
> (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
> smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
> mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
> you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
> really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
> bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

I've got one. Rhode Gear, I think, and it has a rubber thing shoved
into the bar which I have replaced with a grommet. Unfortunately it
doesn't bend far enough inward, and it rotates in the bar way too easily
so whenever I want to use it I have to hold it with my hand. There
really ought to be a better design.

I hate convex mirrors -- I can HEAR that there's a car behind me, I just
want to know exactly how far away it is, and looking over my shoulder
shifts my balance in a way that might put me under the wheels of a
cement truck one day. No, if I haven't been able to avoid this after
15,000 miles I probably won't be able to do it next week either.

> A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
> larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
> head.

I had one, but I kept knocking it off. The last time it escaped
permanently.

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06-13-2004, 02:59 PM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
>
> "Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
> (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
> smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
> mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
> you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
> really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
> bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

I've got one. Rhode Gear, I think, and it has a rubber thing shoved
into the bar which I have replaced with a grommet. Unfortunately it
doesn't bend far enough inward, and it rotates in the bar way too easily
so whenever I want to use it I have to hold it with my hand. There
really ought to be a better design.

I hate convex mirrors -- I can HEAR that there's a car behind me, I just
want to know exactly how far away it is, and looking over my shoulder
shifts my balance in a way that might put me under the wheels of a
cement truck one day. No, if I haven't been able to avoid this after
15,000 miles I probably won't be able to do it next week either.

> A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
> larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
> head.

I had one, but I kept knocking it off. The last time it escaped
permanently.

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06-13-2004, 02:59 PM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
>
> "Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
> (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
> smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
> mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
> you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
> really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
> bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

I've got one. Rhode Gear, I think, and it has a rubber thing shoved
into the bar which I have replaced with a grommet. Unfortunately it
doesn't bend far enough inward, and it rotates in the bar way too easily
so whenever I want to use it I have to hold it with my hand. There
really ought to be a better design.

I hate convex mirrors -- I can HEAR that there's a car behind me, I just
want to know exactly how far away it is, and looking over my shoulder
shifts my balance in a way that might put me under the wheels of a
cement truck one day. No, if I haven't been able to avoid this after
15,000 miles I probably won't be able to do it next week either.

> A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
> larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
> head.

I had one, but I kept knocking it off. The last time it escaped
permanently.

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Cheers, Bev
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06-13-2004, 02:59 PM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
>
> "Alex88" wrote: (clip) the cyclop is convex, is a good or a bad thing?
> (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Convex is a GOOD thing. It's not so much that it makes things appear
> smaller, which it does, but it increases your angle of view. With a flat
> mirror you would have to lean to various positions to scan the scene behind
> you, which would be difficult, and would never assure you that you have
> really taken in everything. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing a flat
> bar-end mirror--I'll bet they are not even available.

I've got one. Rhode Gear, I think, and it has a rubber thing shoved
into the bar which I have replaced with a grommet. Unfortunately it
doesn't bend far enough inward, and it rotates in the bar way too easily
so whenever I want to use it I have to hold it with my hand. There
really ought to be a better design.

I hate convex mirrors -- I can HEAR that there's a car behind me, I just
want to know exactly how far away it is, and looking over my shoulder
shifts my balance in a way that might put me under the wheels of a
cement truck one day. No, if I haven't been able to avoid this after
15,000 miles I probably won't be able to do it next week either.

> A flat helmet mirror is OK, because, being close to your eye, it provides a
> larger angle of view. Also, you can scan by just turning or tilting your
> head.

I had one, but I kept knocking it off. The last time it escaped
permanently.

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Cheers, Bev
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